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"Getting stuff wrong" by not corroborating facts using reliable sources is not acceptable for a news organization.

• mupuff1234 2y ago
  You're right, but just want to dispute the claim that NYTimes is somehow Israeli propaganda - I think it's clearly not.
  • Sporktacular 2y ago
    The claim has some merit: https://theintercept.com/2024/04/15/nyt-israel-gaza-genocide-palestine-coverage/ https://theintercept.com/2024/04/15/nyt-israel-gaza-genocide...
    • mupuff1234 2y ago
      They were told to not used those words because they are disputed and not consider facts, pretty sure they can and still use those words in opinion pieces. Innocent until proven guilty etc.
    • rcpt 2y ago
      > The analysis found that, as of November 24, the New York Times had described Israeli deaths as a “massacre” on 53 occasions and those of Palestinians just once. The ratio for the use of “slaughter” was 22 to 1, even as the documented number of Palestinians killed climbed to around 15,000. You could copy this paragraph verbatim into Manufacturing Consent and it would fit in perfectly.
  • drpossum 2y ago
    Spouting off someone's talking points without verification makes you propaganda. It's just a question on if it's due to an agenda or incompetence. It's one of those.
    • mupuff1234 2y ago
      Propaganda has to have intent, by definition.
      • drpossum 2y ago
        I agree, but to be a "propaganda outlet" that intent does not need to be by the republisher. If some news outlet is just reprinting garbage without thought they are culpable for spreading someone else's propaganda through negligence.