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Israel is a postindustrial economy with a 600,000-man military reserve and (unofficially) a nuclear arsenal of the size and capability needed to destroy the soc

Israel is a postindustrial economy with a 600,000-man military reserve and (unofficially) a nuclear arsenal of the size and capability needed to destroy the society of any industrialized nation on Earth. Almost all of the support and protection they've received from the US since October has been mainly to keep leverage on Netanyahu and to keep the war from spreading across the Middle East. For example, if Iran's missiles had bombarded Tel Aviv, you're probably going to see Israel bombarding Tehran, which could pull in Iraq, etc., and Israel has yet to lose a fight against its regional neighbors. They don't need the US to prop them up economically or militarily, which should bring about a conversation about support come next budget, but I doubt it. I too would like to see a more moderate group in charge.

mike50 2y ago
Which Israeli defense contractors build airplanes and tanks? Without aircraft and spares you cannot have a modern military. The US absolutely props up Israeli with weapons and military technology that they do not produce in country. Waving around nuclear weapons and a massive number of troops are the actions of states that are weaker then project as (Russia DPRK).
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > Which Israeli defense contractors build airplanes and tanks? Neither do the North Koreans [1][2]? (Caveats [3][4].) America dropping Israel simply means it finds a new supplier. Russia is out of the picture, given its dependence on Iran, but China and India would be more than willing to supply. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_People's_Army_Air_Force https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_People's_Army_Air_For... [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanks_of_North_Korea https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanks_of_North_Korea [3] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokpung-ho https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokpung-ho [4] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkava https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkava
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- nsguy 2y ago
  Israel did use to build fighter jets. It built the Kfir. It planned to build a next gen airplane (The Lavi) but was pressured by the US to cancel that plan and instead buy F16s. The US also affects control of what Israeli weapons systems can be sold to who. Presumably part of the agreement to cancel the Lavi project was some sort of US commitment to supply Israel instead. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Lavi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Lavi
shiroiushi 2y ago
>you're probably going to see Israel bombarding Tehran, which could pull in Iraq Why would Israel bombing Tehran pull in Iraq? Iraq and Iran have never been friends.

mike50 2y ago

Which Israeli defense contractors build airplanes and tanks? Without aircraft and spares you cannot have a modern military. The US absolutely props up Israeli with weapons and military technology that they do not produce in country. Waving around nuclear weapons and a massive number of troops are the actions of states that are weaker then project as (Russia DPRK).

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> Which Israeli defense contractors build airplanes and tanks? Neither do the North Koreans [1][2]? (Caveats [3][4].) America dropping Israel simply means it finds a new supplier. Russia is out of the picture, given its dependence on Iran, but China and India would be more than willing to supply. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_People's_Army_Air_Force https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_People's_Army_Air_For... [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanks_of_North_Korea https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanks_of_North_Korea [3] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokpung-ho https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokpung-ho [4] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkava https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkava
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nsguy 2y ago
Israel did use to build fighter jets. It built the Kfir. It planned to build a next gen airplane (The Lavi) but was pressured by the US to cancel that plan and instead buy F16s. The US also affects control of what Israeli weapons systems can be sold to who. Presumably part of the agreement to cancel the Lavi project was some sort of US commitment to supply Israel instead. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Lavi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Lavi

shiroiushi 2y ago

>you're probably going to see Israel bombarding Tehran, which could pull in Iraq Why would Israel bombing Tehran pull in Iraq? Iraq and Iran have never been friends.