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I don't think that helps honestly. What would help IMO is a lot of new housing close to jobs where foreigners can't apply. Because no matter how much you build,

I don't think that helps honestly. What would help IMO is a lot of new housing close to jobs where foreigners can't apply. Because no matter how much you build, if someone from overseas is going to say "I pay double of whatever you've been offered" I can't compete. And I know that's happening because my Gf has to work with this sort of people, sadly.

diggan 2y ago
> I don't think that helps honestly. What would help IMO is a lot of new housing close to jobs where foreigners can't apply. Because no matter how much you build, if someone from overseas is going to say "I pay double of whatever you've been offered" I can't compete. But if the law blocks "I pay double of whatever you've been offered" from happening (which is true today, they cannot increase the rent to whatever they want), then you'd have a chance to compete because the competition is no longer about who can pay the most.
- spaniard89277 2y ago
  No, because the landlord would either get the rest under the table or the competition would move onto risk profiles, where someone earning 4/5k month would beat any spaniard with our unstable and poorly paid jobs. In the end, we either do it like in Vienna or Singapore, or we're not going to solve it.
  - throwaway2037 2y ago
    Singapore, I know about: A huge amount of decent public housing. Is Vienna similar? Is there no political pressure in Spain to build more decent public housing?
    - spaniard89277 2y ago
      Vienna has a massive public, universal, rent system. Like 50% of the total housing stock. Everyone says they're going to make public housing here in Spain, nobody does anything.
      - em-bee 2y ago
        more details on vienna: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40257927 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40257927
- misja111 2y ago
  You're correct, the competition wouldn't be on rent prices anymore. But since the shortage of houses is not solved, competition would just move to some other area. E.g: which candidate does the landlord like the best, or who was on some waiting list for the most years, etc.
ricardobayes 2y ago
Technically we have that, it's called VPO.

diggan 2y ago

> I don't think that helps honestly. What would help IMO is a lot of new housing close to jobs where foreigners can't apply. Because no matter how much you build, if someone from overseas is going to say "I pay double of whatever you've been offered" I can't compete. But if the law blocks "I pay double of whatever you've been offered" from happening (which is true today, they cannot increase the rent to whatever they want), then you'd have a chance to compete because the competition is no longer about who can pay the most.

spaniard89277 2y ago
No, because the landlord would either get the rest under the table or the competition would move onto risk profiles, where someone earning 4/5k month would beat any spaniard with our unstable and poorly paid jobs. In the end, we either do it like in Vienna or Singapore, or we're not going to solve it.
- throwaway2037 2y ago
  Singapore, I know about: A huge amount of decent public housing. Is Vienna similar? Is there no political pressure in Spain to build more decent public housing?
  - spaniard89277 2y ago
    Vienna has a massive public, universal, rent system. Like 50% of the total housing stock. Everyone says they're going to make public housing here in Spain, nobody does anything.
    - em-bee 2y ago
      more details on vienna: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40257927 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40257927
misja111 2y ago
You're correct, the competition wouldn't be on rent prices anymore. But since the shortage of houses is not solved, competition would just move to some other area. E.g: which candidate does the landlord like the best, or who was on some waiting list for the most years, etc.

ricardobayes 2y ago

Technically we have that, it's called VPO.