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> Paper finds a failure case for current LLMs and draws broad conclusions about the fundamental limits of LLM technology > Evaluates the largest LLMs and finds
by kalkin 2y ago
> Paper finds a failure case for current LLMs and draws broad conclusions about the fundamental limits of LLM technology
> Evaluates the largest LLMs and finds evidence that actually scale overcomes the problem:
"Notable exceptions are Claude 3 Opus and GPT-4 that
occasionally manage to provide correct responses backed up with correct reasoning as evident in
structured step by step explanations those models deliver together with solution"
> Drink!
I'm not sure it's productive to be this sarcastic on HN, but it's really quite a common pattern. And there's something very frustrating about how authors of these papers will accuse others of hype and overstating results but also often vastly overstate the generality of their own results - to the point where this HN thread is full of people saying bluntly "this proves LLMs can't reason".
- rep_lodsb 2y agoThe key word is "occasionally". For anything even close to AGI, it would be reasonable to expect a correct answer to such a simple question 100% of the time. Or at least not confidently wrong answers.
- kalkin 2y agoThe question the paper claims to address isn't whether current LLMs are AGI, the question is whether LLMs can reason. And solving a problem that seems to require reasoning some of the time is still evidence of reasoning - especially if the question is what we can expect this technology to do in the future.