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I think you’re using “inner monologue” too literally. It could be a progression of pictures, emotions, etc.

by CooCooCaCha 2y ago

ajuc 2y ago
With that definition even bacteria have inner monologue.
- CooCooCaCha 2y ago
  Can bacteria imagine pictures? Do they have emotions? Why does this matter? Stop being so pedantic. We're talking about a progression of ideas. Talking in your head is one form of ideas, but people can easily solve problems by imagining them.
  - IlliOnato 2y ago
    Hmm, looks to me like just trading some words for others. Do bacteria have ideas? Does the navigating system in your car? How do you know? We need to be at least somewhat pedantic, otherwise it's impossible to know what we are even talking about, and no way to establish anything.
  - ajuc 2y ago
    Initial thesis was - inner monologue is required for reasoning. If you define inner monologue to include everything brains do - the initial thesis becomes a tautology.
IlliOnato 2y ago
To make any progress on this question at all, we need first to come up with some definition of internal monologue. Even if we may need to modify it later, there has to be a starting point. Otherwise, nothing can be established at all, because for any statement there always will be someone's understanding of "internal monologue" for which the statement is true, and someone's else understanding for which the statement is false...
- hombre_fatal 2y ago
  I'm sure inner monologue just cashes out into the ability to reflect on your own thoughts. And for one to say that they're not having that experience also involves a claim about what they think other people are having which would make me doubly skeptical. In practice, when you see people arguing about whether they have an "inner monologue" or can "mentally picture objects" on social media, it's more of a contest of who is the most unique in the world rather than anything that sheds clarity on our subjective experience.

I think you’re using “inner monologue” too literally. It could be a progression of pictures, emotions, etc.

ajuc 2y ago

With that definition even bacteria have inner monologue.

CooCooCaCha 2y ago
Can bacteria imagine pictures? Do they have emotions? Why does this matter? Stop being so pedantic. We're talking about a progression of ideas. Talking in your head is one form of ideas, but people can easily solve problems by imagining them.
- IlliOnato 2y ago
  Hmm, looks to me like just trading some words for others. Do bacteria have ideas? Does the navigating system in your car? How do you know? We need to be at least somewhat pedantic, otherwise it's impossible to know what we are even talking about, and no way to establish anything.
- ajuc 2y ago
  Initial thesis was - inner monologue is required for reasoning. If you define inner monologue to include everything brains do - the initial thesis becomes a tautology.

IlliOnato 2y ago

To make any progress on this question at all, we need first to come up with some definition of internal monologue. Even if we may need to modify it later, there has to be a starting point. Otherwise, nothing can be established at all, because for any statement there always will be someone's understanding of "internal monologue" for which the statement is true, and someone's else understanding for which the statement is false...

hombre_fatal 2y ago
I'm sure inner monologue just cashes out into the ability to reflect on your own thoughts. And for one to say that they're not having that experience also involves a claim about what they think other people are having which would make me doubly skeptical. In practice, when you see people arguing about whether they have an "inner monologue" or can "mentally picture objects" on social media, it's more of a contest of who is the most unique in the world rather than anything that sheds clarity on our subjective experience.