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Agree on the Apple strengths, disagree that MS is scared. PCs just aren't where they make most of their money anymore. Enterprise is extremely lucrative for th

by causal 2y ago

Agree on the Apple strengths, disagree that MS is scared. PCs just aren't where they make most of their money anymore. Enterprise is extremely lucrative for them, and their headstart in the AI space may be just what they need to close the gap with AWS.

CuriouslyC 2y ago
Azure is bad. Google is the one that's going to leverage AI to catch up with AWS, GCP is actually good and they've already partnered with Huggingface.
- bruce511 2y ago
  Features aside, I simply don't trust Google to keep GCP running in the long term. Their propensity to kill projects (even ones which are successful), plus their gratuitous price hikes (aka Google Maps) has made me Goggle negative. Sure, they might run GCP forever. Sure they may offer some sort of customer service at some point. Sure they may decide to keep pricing at sane levels. The key work in all that is "might" - and that requires my _trust_. And for better, or worse, my trust simply isn't there.
  - CuriouslyC 2y ago
    I 100% feel you on the google trust. I think it'll end up being central to a lot of their other efforts so I'm expecting it to stick around, but hybrid cloud solutions are just a smart bet anyhow.
  - magicalhippo 2y ago
    For us Google wasn't even on the table, due to what you mentioned. It was AWS or Azure. AWS didn't have a data center in our country and our customers are required by law to keep their data in the country, so easy win for Azure.
- yesdocs 2y ago
  Why is azure ‘bad’? Is it because you dislike Microsoft? In my experience Azure is really good and getting better. Even if AWS is more popular, Azure is gaining traction, is more intuitive and easier to use, and in my experience: cheaper
  - CuriouslyC 2y ago
    they've had long running security issues and performance edge cases that make relying on them a bit of a time bomb.
  - Hikikomori 2y ago
    Had to do multi cloud with Azure, worked on network infrastructure, vnet, peering, firewall, vpn gateway, etc. Documentation was almost worthless, leaving a lot of room for interpretation. Encountered and filed more bugs trying to get it up and running than I did for years of using Aws. Support was mediocre. Non existent ipv6 support. This was a few years ago and in comparison to Aws.
- bongodongobob 2y ago
  You realize that Azure is much more than compute right?
  - yesdocs 2y ago
    Of course, and why is azure ‘bad’?
    - bongodongobob 2y ago
      It's not, it great if you have a large org.
Zhyl 2y ago
What would you do if you had several billion devices that you had root access to, used directly by humans and isn't making you any money in sales these days? The 2024 answer is to use it to capture data to train AI. Microsoft could lose 9/10 of their market share (which they won't) and still have millions of devices harvesting training data for them.
- lalalandland 2y ago
  If GDPR is at all questionable, Microsoft is not able to push this to EU countries. The risk for a business to get in GDPR trouble is to high.

by causal 2y ago

CuriouslyC 2y ago

Azure is bad. Google is the one that's going to leverage AI to catch up with AWS, GCP is actually good and they've already partnered with Huggingface.

bruce511 2y ago
Features aside, I simply don't trust Google to keep GCP running in the long term. Their propensity to kill projects (even ones which are successful), plus their gratuitous price hikes (aka Google Maps) has made me Goggle negative. Sure, they might run GCP forever. Sure they may offer some sort of customer service at some point. Sure they may decide to keep pricing at sane levels. The key work in all that is "might" - and that requires my _trust_. And for better, or worse, my trust simply isn't there.
- CuriouslyC 2y ago
  I 100% feel you on the google trust. I think it'll end up being central to a lot of their other efforts so I'm expecting it to stick around, but hybrid cloud solutions are just a smart bet anyhow.
- magicalhippo 2y ago
  For us Google wasn't even on the table, due to what you mentioned. It was AWS or Azure. AWS didn't have a data center in our country and our customers are required by law to keep their data in the country, so easy win for Azure.
yesdocs 2y ago
Why is azure ‘bad’? Is it because you dislike Microsoft? In my experience Azure is really good and getting better. Even if AWS is more popular, Azure is gaining traction, is more intuitive and easier to use, and in my experience: cheaper
- CuriouslyC 2y ago
  they've had long running security issues and performance edge cases that make relying on them a bit of a time bomb.
- Hikikomori 2y ago
  Had to do multi cloud with Azure, worked on network infrastructure, vnet, peering, firewall, vpn gateway, etc. Documentation was almost worthless, leaving a lot of room for interpretation. Encountered and filed more bugs trying to get it up and running than I did for years of using Aws. Support was mediocre. Non existent ipv6 support. This was a few years ago and in comparison to Aws.
bongodongobob 2y ago
You realize that Azure is much more than compute right?
- yesdocs 2y ago
  Of course, and why is azure ‘bad’?
  - bongodongobob 2y ago
    It's not, it great if you have a large org.

Zhyl 2y ago

What would you do if you had several billion devices that you had root access to, used directly by humans and isn't making you any money in sales these days? The 2024 answer is to use it to capture data to train AI. Microsoft could lose 9/10 of their market share (which they won't) and still have millions of devices harvesting training data for them.

lalalandland 2y ago
If GDPR is at all questionable, Microsoft is not able to push this to EU countries. The risk for a business to get in GDPR trouble is to high.