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Nintendo leak:employee accessing private YouTube videos
- thinkmassive 2y agoTitle is difficult to decipher, here’s what it’s about: > A new report on old privacy incidents [2017] suggests that at least one Nintendo leak came from a Google employee showing off private YouTube videos to a friend.
- kris_lujanovic 2y agoits from one of the content moderators. they are all hired and managed through recruiting agency. there was over 10k of us while I was there. and most people are just kids with one week of on boarding doing short term contract. whoever did it is blackballed by biggest recruiting agency in the world. way to get your life crazy difficult over reddit points
- beeboobaa3 2y agoso youtube content moderators can just view anyone's private videos willy nilly?
- pixl97 2y agoYes, this is typically how moderation works on any platform. Unless it is encrypted it's not "private".
- bombcar 2y agoIf it's a truly private video, it should be only visible by moderation when logged in as a moderator. If it was an unlisted video, the moderator would just need to know the reference code (URL) for the video, and could share it with anyone.
- jabroni_salad 2y agoAs mentioned in the article, the original leak was a screenshot from admin.youtube.com
- beeboobaa3 2y agoNo, it's not. Typically moderators can view content that needs moderation, i.e. is visible to other users. There is no reason to give them access to all private videos, which are different from unlisted.
- pixl97 2y agoYes it is. You can keep saying "no it's not" until the cows come home, but every single bit of unencrypted content (and possibly well known hashes of encrypted content) is subject to moderation on any large corporate property.
- jandrese 2y agoIf you have confidential data don't upload it to Youtube, or really anybody else's servers.
- mike_d 2y agoThey can view videos they are assigned to review, but they can't just pull up a random private video.
- b3lvedere 2y agoI never knew Youtube did child labour?
- vel0city 2y agoIn many states its legal for people 16-18 to work, usually with limitations on hours worked per shift/week an what kind of jobs they can do. Even then, many older people in the US will call someone 18-20 "kids", even though they're technically adults. As a US English speaker I took it to mean "a bunch of young and immature people, probably on their first job" when I heard "most people are just kids", not that they're literally hiring 12 year olds or something.
- tredre3 2y agoIn all 50 states it is legal for people 16+ to work full time.
- vel0city 2y agoI can't say I know the law in every state so I typically don't say absolutes like that. If that's true, thanks for clarifying/correcting. Also, it looks like you're right for at least the states I normally deal with. Looking back the first job I had started when I was still 15, I must have just blended those shift schedule restrictions during the rest of my time working as 16-17 as well. So yeah, I guess that's probably true.
- gwbas1c 2y ago> Even then, many older people in the US will call someone 18-20 "kids", even though they're technically adults. In my head I felt like my peers in college were "kids". I didn't feel like we were "adults" until we were in our mid-20s.
- mrguyorama 2y agoKids are literally dying in Tyson affiliated chicken plants down south and nobody is going to prison. Why WOULDN'T youtube use child labor if it's cheaper?
- alickz 2y ago> way to get your life crazy difficult over reddit points "Google says it was "non-intentional" because they only showed it to a friend", I don't think they purposely leaked it for internet clout
- dylan604 2y agoGreat, "it was only a friend" is the same thing anyone says when caught revealing a secret that was meant to "remain between us". That's a load of horseshit for an excuse.
- erremerre 2y agoMy favourite are the one that leaked a tank data on a discord just to prove that they were right.
- duped 2y agoThe number of state secrets protected by a 20 year old E-4 whose only motivation is to not get chewed out (and/or jail) is probably staggering.
- throwaway48476 2y agoA lot of these tank "leaks" are just PDF's of manuals you can buy on ebay. They're restricted but legal to own. It only becomes illegal when you export them to other countries.
- duped 2y agoI believe what GP is referring to is the Air Force National Guardsman who's going to jail for leaking classified intelligence on a discord server to prove he was right. I don't think it was actually about tanks, just that it happened in a WarFrame discord (or something like that).
- lotsofpulp 2y agoBeing prosecuted and imprisoned by the federal government is far more motivation than being terminated from a low paying job.
- finnthehuman 2y agohttps://knowyourmeme.com/photos/2651728-war-thunder-military-document-leaks https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/2651728-war-thunder-military...
- dmix 2y ago> whoever did it is blackballed by biggest recruiting agency in the world. way to get your life crazy difficult over reddit points I think you're overvaluing the power of recruiting agencies
- qwertox 2y ago"Nintendo leak: Google employee accessing private YouTube videos" would be clearer. Showing those videos "only" to a friend isn't really that relevant.
- randomdata 2y agoThe friend is quite relevant. There is no expectation of a video stored on a Google system being private to Google employees, but there is an expectation that they will not take that information outside of Google.
- rrr_oh_man 2y agoIn practice, bound by agreements is valid until it isn’t
- throwaway2016a 2y ago> There is no expectation of a video stored on a Google system being private to Google employees "No expectation" of it not being available to "some" employees maybe, but there is certainly ways to restrict access to only a need-to-know employees. Ideally no employees at all unless some sort of automated monitoring system flags it or there is an outside report. Just like some social networks, I would "expect" only security and moderation people would have access to profiles but there are always stories of entire companies having unrestricted access. It's unclear from the article where the access boundaries are in this case.
- randomdata 2y agoThe private information is shared with Youtube/Google, so the assumption is that anyone who is an agent of Google is in on the secret. If it must only be in the hands of one or a small group of people at Google, you'd best go to those individuals directly, not through the overarching entity of Google as a proxy.
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- xyst 2y agoPeople will do anything to pump imaginary numbers on the internet. All logic goes out the window for those seeking fame.
- pixl97 2y agoI mean how many times have we seen people leak military information on world of tanks (or whatever). These people know they'll get court martialed and still do it anyway. These people doing moderating are getting paid near minimum wage to look at the worst things on the internet, you can blame the individual, but the entire moderation system is setup with cheap contractors they burn out and replace at high rates. Systemic failure is guaranteed.
- happytoexplain 2y agoHN title needs a grammar cleanup (at time of writing, it's 'Nintendo leak employee accessing private YouTube videos')
- realsarm 2y agoI couldn't copy the whole title from original article because of 80 character limitations
- blitzar 2y agoNintendo leak reportedly came from YouTube employee accessing private videos The actual article headline really does make reading the article pointless.
- happytoexplain 2y agoI realize, and sympathize. But I'm sure we can make it more comprehensible. E.g. this fits in 80 characters: Part of Nintendo leak was Google employee sharing private YT video with friend
- raldi 2y agoThey added a colon, but it should really be something like, "Nintendo leak was due to YouTube employee accessing private video"
- kmfrk 2y agoOriginal source and article: https://www.404media.co/google-contractor-used-admin-access-to-leak-private-nintendo-youtube-video/ https://www.404media.co/google-contractor-used-admin-access-... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40577812 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40577812 YouTube employees or contractors might also have leaked unannounced PlayStation news: https://insider-gaming.com/how-youtube-leaks-work/ https://insider-gaming.com/how-youtube-leaks-work/
- mike_d 2y agoThey seem to be making a big deal out of nothing. These are all cases where someone did something, it was reported/discovered, and it was investigated and handled by security/global investigations.
- dev1ycan 2y agoIt's weird as fuck how people working in these fields have unrestricted access to peoples private information, be it videos, pictures or worse.
- coldpie 2y agoArticles like this and the endless stream of hacks & leaks are important reminders that there is no such thing as computer security. If your data is on a networked computer, you should consider it semi-public.
- px43 2y ago> no such thing as computer security There absolutely is for anyone who cares to use it. That sort of defeatist mindset is super counterproductive, and ends up putting more people in harm's way. We're talking about people choosing to upload unencrypted content to a cloud service that is obviously publicly available. The security/privacy properties of this action I think should be obvious even to less technical users.
- coldpie 2y agoYeah, man. These are all the end users' fault: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_data_breaches https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_data_breaches Totally.
- px43 2y agoSysadmins are also people. Also I've been pushing for informative security scoring for publicly used services for over a decade. If you're in the field, it's pretty obvious which services are at high risk of being breached, but that really should be something more accessible to the general public, like FDA letter grading for restaurants.
- coldpie 2y agoSo between these two comments: > There absolutely is for anyone who cares to use it > Sysadmins are also people. is it your contention that the sysadmins at those organizations don't care about computer security? Or that users are responsible for knowing whether their organizations' sysadmins care about computer security?
- realsarm 2y ago* title is updated for clarity
- shadowgovt 2y agoThis sort of thing is extremely bad news for Google. One of the open secrets about how advertising works in the modern era is that brand synergy demands planning years in advance. Google employees, back in the day, could see the marvel cinematic universe release plan out to several years if they knew where to look, as well as console launch dates, major product releases, and other things of that nature. This is because the advertising sector has high-touch, high-value customers, and those customers expect their marketing plan to go off without a hitch. So Googlers have to make time and schedule things like DiRT testing and new feature validation sensitive to those schedules; Warner Bros isn't going to want to hear it if their Superman ad dropped 2 days early because a feature flag was misconfigured. When Google was smaller, this was fine. But as a 100,000 person company, I believe it is completely infeasible to expect every Googler to keep those secrets. At those scales, you can't really even use the threat of firing to maintain secrecy because you can't really guarantee that the person who's going to replace the fired one is going to be more loyal. So inevitably, either Google locks down its internal infrastructure (turning it into a company other than the kind of company it was in the past), they cap their employee growth (which implies capping their growth in general), or they start losing high value customers who can't trust them to keep a secret. In practice, they are definitely doing the first two to some extent and that is changing the flavor of the company internally. Part of the secret sauce of old Google is it didn't keep secrets from itself.
- aramova 2y agoWell that's what happens when you put a McKinsey shrill at the helm and let them go on a mass hiring then mass layoff spree while bending a knee to activist investors to lower wages. You end up with employees who dgaf.
- Traubenfuchs 2y agoFrom my experience with any kind of work that concerns interesting, private (multimedia) data, all of it will be used and abused by employees. I once worked on the backend for the tax return calculations and people there were just looking up anyones private (financial) data left and right, e.g. to see how much their dates were making, where they were living, when exactly they were born, etc...
- montebicyclelo 2y agoRelated side note: I've always had a suspicion that one of the ideas I was working on using Google Colab was viewed by an employee and leaked, because someone wrote a blog post with the exact same idea (very niche) before I got round to releasing mine (I ended up not bothering due to being gazumped), and a Google Colab employee tweeted that blog post. (Puts on tin foil hat.. I stopped using Colab after that.)
- whimsicalism 2y agoi find that unlikely
- GaggiX 2y agoCan you share the blog post?
- wannacboatmovie 2y agoMaybe the boomer companies that never trusted SaaS were right in the end... though that list is fairly thin.
- reza_1999 2y agoThey bluntly say their notebook product is not private https://www.reddit.com/r/google/comments/1d7g3tu/notebooklm_updated_privacy_says_humans_read_your/ https://www.reddit.com/r/google/comments/1d7g3tu/notebooklm_... even for non-AI generated stuff like your notes and uploads.
- wolpoli 2y agoWhile it says that your personal data may be seen by human reviewers to troubleshoot, address abused or make improvement based on your feedback, it does not mention that your data will be used to generate ideas for blog posts.
- Der_Einzige 2y agoThere’s zero privacy with any ML/AI tools.
- hiatus 2y agoI wonder if any youtube moderators have used advanced knowledge of marketing campaigns to trade stock based on that information.
- gowld 2y agoreblog of paywall article. Orginal has better, clearer information. https://www.404media.co/google-contractor-used-admin-access-to-leak-private-nintendo-youtube-video/ https://www.404media.co/google-contractor-used-admin-access-... "Google Contractor Used Admin Access to Leak Info From Private Nintendo YouTube Video" This is how companies harm users by using low-trust, low-attachment contractors to handle private data.
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