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> thanks to Elon fucking over the entire industry with his ridiculous bullshit) are you actually saying that elon has been a negative for the EV industry? if s

> thanks to Elon fucking over the entire industry with his ridiculous bullshit) are you actually saying that elon has been a negative for the EV industry? if so, are you quite serious?

sjsdaiuasgdia 2y ago
Maybe not net negative yet but he's doing his best to undo prior gains in public opinion For a variety of reasons, over the last few years, general public reaction has shifted from "Ooh! A Tesla!" to "Ew, a Tesla" FSD promises not met, failure to evolve vehicle designs, the range scandal stuff, the debacle that is the Cybertruck...and yes, also Elon's frequent inability to control his impulses and keep his mouth shut
- redeeman 2y ago
  you meet very different tesla owners than I do
  - sjsdaiuasgdia 2y ago
    Well there's your problem, you're thinking about Tesla owners. People who already own a Tesla already have an electric vehicle. They might replace it at some point, and it may or may not be replaced by another Tesla. But they're already a member of the electric vehicle owning population. They don't need to be convinced to buy an electric vehicle. I'm talking more about people who own ICE cars today, and their opinions when they see a Tesla, a friend/relative/colleague talks about their Tesla, etc. Elon's behavior and some of Tesla's corporate actions have impacted the brand image of Tesla. Tesla has, through their prior successes, established itself as the face of the electric vehicle industry. As the Tesla brand image degrades, there is a knock-on effect on how electric vehicles are generally seen by people who are not yet electric vehicle owners.
    - redeeman 2y ago
      i know many that have been considering a tesla as next car(currently on diesel/gasoline), and havent heard anyone that expressed they are upset with elon so might not, most are still very eager on tesla, a few are considering smaller mini EVs

> thanks to Elon fucking over the entire industry with his ridiculous bullshit) are you actually saying that elon has been a negative for the EV industry? if so, are you quite serious?

sjsdaiuasgdia 2y ago

Maybe not net negative yet but he's doing his best to undo prior gains in public opinion For a variety of reasons, over the last few years, general public reaction has shifted from "Ooh! A Tesla!" to "Ew, a Tesla" FSD promises not met, failure to evolve vehicle designs, the range scandal stuff, the debacle that is the Cybertruck...and yes, also Elon's frequent inability to control his impulses and keep his mouth shut

redeeman 2y ago
you meet very different tesla owners than I do
- sjsdaiuasgdia 2y ago
  Well there's your problem, you're thinking about Tesla owners. People who already own a Tesla already have an electric vehicle. They might replace it at some point, and it may or may not be replaced by another Tesla. But they're already a member of the electric vehicle owning population. They don't need to be convinced to buy an electric vehicle. I'm talking more about people who own ICE cars today, and their opinions when they see a Tesla, a friend/relative/colleague talks about their Tesla, etc. Elon's behavior and some of Tesla's corporate actions have impacted the brand image of Tesla. Tesla has, through their prior successes, established itself as the face of the electric vehicle industry. As the Tesla brand image degrades, there is a knock-on effect on how electric vehicles are generally seen by people who are not yet electric vehicle owners.
  - redeeman 2y ago
    i know many that have been considering a tesla as next car(currently on diesel/gasoline), and havent heard anyone that expressed they are upset with elon so might not, most are still very eager on tesla, a few are considering smaller mini EVs