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If you're correct, then we're looking at the repeat of the whole VW diesel-gate. Unfortunately, VW is still in business. Something like $30-40B? globally in fi
by DiabloD3 2y ago
If you're correct, then we're looking at the repeat of the whole VW diesel-gate.
Unfortunately, VW is still in business. Something like $30-40B? globally in fines, they still sell diesel and ICE cars, people aren't lining up to buy electric cars (thanks to Elon fucking over the entire industry with his ridiculous bullshit).
Japan didn't blow the lid off the real estate scam in the 1980s, leading to what started as the "lost decade" and is now becoming the "lost generation", I doubt they're torpedo one of their largest export industries and it's just going to push them further into Great Depression-levels of kicking the can down the road until its too late to fix it.
Akio Toyoda and his apparent co-conspirators across the industry won't be fired, won't see jail time, although it may lead to a shuffle in the executive positions to appease the government.
- Dalewyn 2y agoThe only thing in question is how much of this was simple neglect, forced out of practicality (deadlines!), or actually malicious. That the falsifications happened and goes well beyond Daihatsu's shenanigans isn't in doubt. NHK has been spamming their news programs with this controversy, it shouldn't be too hard to read/watch up on it.
- redeeman 2y ago> thanks to Elon fucking over the entire industry with his ridiculous bullshit) are you actually saying that elon has been a negative for the EV industry? if so, are you quite serious?
- sjsdaiuasgdia 2y agoMaybe not net negative yet but he's doing his best to undo prior gains in public opinion For a variety of reasons, over the last few years, general public reaction has shifted from "Ooh! A Tesla!" to "Ew, a Tesla" FSD promises not met, failure to evolve vehicle designs, the range scandal stuff, the debacle that is the Cybertruck...and yes, also Elon's frequent inability to control his impulses and keep his mouth shut
- redeeman 2y agoyou meet very different tesla owners than I do
- sjsdaiuasgdia 2y agoWell there's your problem, you're thinking about Tesla owners. People who already own a Tesla already have an electric vehicle. They might replace it at some point, and it may or may not be replaced by another Tesla. But they're already a member of the electric vehicle owning population. They don't need to be convinced to buy an electric vehicle. I'm talking more about people who own ICE cars today, and their opinions when they see a Tesla, a friend/relative/colleague talks about their Tesla, etc. Elon's behavior and some of Tesla's corporate actions have impacted the brand image of Tesla. Tesla has, through their prior successes, established itself as the face of the electric vehicle industry. As the Tesla brand image degrades, there is a knock-on effect on how electric vehicles are generally seen by people who are not yet electric vehicle owners.
- redeeman 2y agoi know many that have been considering a tesla as next car(currently on diesel/gasoline), and havent heard anyone that expressed they are upset with elon so might not, most are still very eager on tesla, a few are considering smaller mini EVs
- lupusreal 2y ago> people aren't lining up to buy electric cars (thanks to Elon fucking over the entire industry with his ridiculous bullshit). Elon's bullshit is far down the list of reasons people aren't buying electric cars. Practical and economic concerns dominate car purchasing decisions, not the politics and antics of car manufacturer executives. Elon talking shit on twitter isn't the reason all electric cars depreciate like milk left on the counter.