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Parent seems to care more about 'not polluting something i see all the time'. Typical of our society, we want to make everything someone else's problem. I gue

Parent seems to care more about 'not polluting something i see all the time'. Typical of our society, we want to make everything someone else's problem. I guess we deserve some of the SaaS enshittification and it's spending obesity ;-)

Wowfunhappy 2y ago
> Parent seems to care more about 'not polluting something i see all the time'. Yes, this. > Typical of our society, we want to make everything someone else's problem. I don't think that's a fair analogy. It's more like moving junk from the living room to the attic. I'd prefer to have a clean living room and a messy attic.
- vetinari 2y ago
  >> Parent seems to care more about 'not polluting something i see all the time'. > Yes, this. Like "My Documents" (or "Documents" nowadays)? Now that's some dumping ground.
  - Wowfunhappy 2y ago
    That's bad too, but at least it's not right in my home folder! When I have to use Windows, I basically just avoid using Documents for files. (But my daily driver is an ancient version of OS X, which has ~/Library for these things.)
    - vetinari 2y ago
      Oh, mac has the same issue and for the same reason: the same programs will create the same garbage. ~/Library also isn't something that is used to be; it was good idea, but mostly ignored. Basically similar idea as XDG_(CONFIG|CACHE|DATA)_DIR. What's worst, is that many projects ignore any effort to move them to XDG schema. They take the approach, that they always did it this way, it works, so why changing it. Dot files in my homedir on Sonoma machine: .CFUserTextEncoding .DS_Store .Trash/ .Xauthority .amt .android/ .anyconnect .bash_history .cache/ .cargo/ .config/ .cups/ .degit/ .deno/ .docker/ .eclipse/ .emacs.d/ .gitconfig .gitignore_global .grass7/ .hex/ .homeassistant/ .ipython/ .java.login.config .jupyter/ .kube/ .lemminx/ .lesshst .local/ .matplotlib/ .mix/ .mume/ .node/ .notable.json .npm/ .nvm/ .oh-my-zsh/ .oracle_jre_usage/ .pip/ .profile .psql_history .python_history .rest-client/ .rustup/ .sqitch/ .ssh/ .subversion/ .swiftpm/ .thumbnails/ .viminfo .vscode/ .wget-hsts .wine/ .yarn/ .yarnrc .zcompdump .zsh_history .zsh_sessions/ .zshenv .zshrc
      - tristan957 2y ago
        Many of these you can move if you wanted. For instance, git looks in $XDG_CONFIG_HOME.
      - Wowfunhappy 2y ago
        My home directory is much cleaner because I've made a concerted effort to keep it that way, in a couple of cases even recompiling software. I found this much more difficult on Linux.

Wowfunhappy 2y ago

> Parent seems to care more about 'not polluting something i see all the time'. Yes, this. > Typical of our society, we want to make everything someone else's problem. I don't think that's a fair analogy. It's more like moving junk from the living room to the attic. I'd prefer to have a clean living room and a messy attic.

vetinari 2y ago
>> Parent seems to care more about 'not polluting something i see all the time'. > Yes, this. Like "My Documents" (or "Documents" nowadays)? Now that's some dumping ground.
- Wowfunhappy 2y ago
  That's bad too, but at least it's not right in my home folder! When I have to use Windows, I basically just avoid using Documents for files. (But my daily driver is an ancient version of OS X, which has ~/Library for these things.)
  - vetinari 2y ago
    Oh, mac has the same issue and for the same reason: the same programs will create the same garbage. ~/Library also isn't something that is used to be; it was good idea, but mostly ignored. Basically similar idea as XDG_(CONFIG|CACHE|DATA)_DIR. What's worst, is that many projects ignore any effort to move them to XDG schema. They take the approach, that they always did it this way, it works, so why changing it. Dot files in my homedir on Sonoma machine: .CFUserTextEncoding .DS_Store .Trash/ .Xauthority .amt .android/ .anyconnect .bash_history .cache/ .cargo/ .config/ .cups/ .degit/ .deno/ .docker/ .eclipse/ .emacs.d/ .gitconfig .gitignore_global .grass7/ .hex/ .homeassistant/ .ipython/ .java.login.config .jupyter/ .kube/ .lemminx/ .lesshst .local/ .matplotlib/ .mix/ .mume/ .node/ .notable.json .npm/ .nvm/ .oh-my-zsh/ .oracle_jre_usage/ .pip/ .profile .psql_history .python_history .rest-client/ .rustup/ .sqitch/ .ssh/ .subversion/ .swiftpm/ .thumbnails/ .viminfo .vscode/ .wget-hsts .wine/ .yarn/ .yarnrc .zcompdump .zsh_history .zsh_sessions/ .zshenv .zshrc
    - tristan957 2y ago
      Many of these you can move if you wanted. For instance, git looks in $XDG_CONFIG_HOME.
    - Wowfunhappy 2y ago
      My home directory is much cleaner because I've made a concerted effort to keep it that way, in a couple of cases even recompiling software. I found this much more difficult on Linux.