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It's at this point that you're going to have to explain what you mean by "infinite".

roenxi 2y ago
> Infinity is something which is boundless, endless, or larger than any natural number. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity
- dventimi 2y ago
  That article describes a variety of different kinds of infinities, in mathematics, physics, logic, and philosophy, so you haven't made any progress in explaining which one you're using. Let me help you out, because I actually know what you mean when you say the number of people on Earth is "potentially infinite" even if you don't really know what you mean. You mean that that there's no upper bound. But, that can only be true under a set of unlikely conditions: There is no upper bound to the existence of Earth. There is no time in the future when Earth becomes uninhabitable. Given that the most unassailable models in science make it practically certain the Sun won't exist as it does now within 10 billion years, your necessary conditions are unlikely. Consequently, I rate your claim: False
  - roenxi 2y ago
    > Let me help you out, because I actually know what you mean ... even if you don't really know what you mean. ^_~ You do you, I suppose. > Given that the most unassailable models in science make it practically certain the Sun won't exist as it does now within 10 billion years, your necessary conditions are unlikely. Everything that happens is unlikely. There isn't anything in particular stopping either of those conditions being fulfilled if progress keeps up at the rate it has for all of recorded human history and the upper limit is a long way away. We'd have to move the earth at some point in the next few billion years. It does seem most likely that we bump in to a hard limit somewhere under the same logic as the Fermi paradox - but we don't know what it is yet and until we do it is simply the case that the number of people on the earth is potentially infinite. As is wealth, as far as we know - especially since wealth doesn't have to have mass.
    - dventimi 2y ago
      Gibberish

> Infinity is something which is boundless, endless, or larger than any natural number. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity

dventimi 2y ago
That article describes a variety of different kinds of infinities, in mathematics, physics, logic, and philosophy, so you haven't made any progress in explaining which one you're using. Let me help you out, because I actually know what you mean when you say the number of people on Earth is "potentially infinite" even if you don't really know what you mean. You mean that that there's no upper bound. But, that can only be true under a set of unlikely conditions: There is no upper bound to the existence of Earth. There is no time in the future when Earth becomes uninhabitable. Given that the most unassailable models in science make it practically certain the Sun won't exist as it does now within 10 billion years, your necessary conditions are unlikely. Consequently, I rate your claim: False
- roenxi 2y ago
  > Let me help you out, because I actually know what you mean ... even if you don't really know what you mean. ^_~ You do you, I suppose. > Given that the most unassailable models in science make it practically certain the Sun won't exist as it does now within 10 billion years, your necessary conditions are unlikely. Everything that happens is unlikely. There isn't anything in particular stopping either of those conditions being fulfilled if progress keeps up at the rate it has for all of recorded human history and the upper limit is a long way away. We'd have to move the earth at some point in the next few billion years. It does seem most likely that we bump in to a hard limit somewhere under the same logic as the Fermi paradox - but we don't know what it is yet and until we do it is simply the case that the number of people on the earth is potentially infinite. As is wealth, as far as we know - especially since wealth doesn't have to have mass.
  - dventimi 2y ago
    Gibberish