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Myocarditis is a pretty serious thing [1], so even a slight increase in risk in young people makes it pretty much a no-no to vaccinate them. [1] https://www.nc

Myocarditis is a pretty serious thing [1], so even a slight increase in risk in young people makes it pretty much a no-no to vaccinate them. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9888677/#:~:text=In%20hospitalized%20patients%20with%20clinically,index%20hospitalization%20in%20young%20adults https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9888677/#:~:tex....

deng 2y ago
Fully agree, so one more reason to get vaccinated, as getting myocarditis from Covid is far more common. https://newsroom.heart.org/news/myocarditis-risk-significantly-higher-after-covid-19-infection-vs-after-a-covid-19-vaccine https://newsroom.heart.org/news/myocarditis-risk-significant...
- willcipriano 2y ago
  That only follows if the vaccine prevents infection.
  - marcinzm 2y ago
    No it doesn't. The study was the outcome of the vaccine irrespective of what happens after you get the vaccine. Get a full covid infection? Still counted. Get no infection? Still counted. Still lower in the end.
  - kadkadels 2y ago
    The vaccines significantly reduce the severity and duration of covid. Reduced severity translates to a lower risk of complications, including myocarditis. It doesn't have to prevent infection completely to protect you.
marcinzm 2y ago
Given that study you'd expect over an extra 10 years somewhere around 10k excess deaths from the vaccine in the US. That's probably very generous. That's tiny versus mortality rates from COVID.
- auggierose 2y ago
  Except of course it hits those who would not have had any problem with COVID in the first place: young people. Personally, I'd like that explained to me before the shot.
  - marcinzm 2y ago
    > Except of course it hits those who would not have had any problem with COVID in the first place: young people. Children also get much higher myocarditis rates from COVID than without COVID. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10352818/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10352818/

deng 2y ago

Fully agree, so one more reason to get vaccinated, as getting myocarditis from Covid is far more common. https://newsroom.heart.org/news/myocarditis-risk-significantly-higher-after-covid-19-infection-vs-after-a-covid-19-vaccine https://newsroom.heart.org/news/myocarditis-risk-significant...

willcipriano 2y ago
That only follows if the vaccine prevents infection.
- marcinzm 2y ago
  No it doesn't. The study was the outcome of the vaccine irrespective of what happens after you get the vaccine. Get a full covid infection? Still counted. Get no infection? Still counted. Still lower in the end.
- kadkadels 2y ago
  The vaccines significantly reduce the severity and duration of covid. Reduced severity translates to a lower risk of complications, including myocarditis. It doesn't have to prevent infection completely to protect you.

marcinzm 2y ago

Given that study you'd expect over an extra 10 years somewhere around 10k excess deaths from the vaccine in the US. That's probably very generous. That's tiny versus mortality rates from COVID.

auggierose 2y ago
Except of course it hits those who would not have had any problem with COVID in the first place: young people. Personally, I'd like that explained to me before the shot.
- marcinzm 2y ago
  > Except of course it hits those who would not have had any problem with COVID in the first place: young people. Children also get much higher myocarditis rates from COVID than without COVID. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10352818/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10352818/