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The video card used to power my dual monitor setup at work uses an ATI catalyst video driver and it crashes on a semi-weekly basis, meaning both screens flicker

The video card used to power my dual monitor setup at work uses an ATI catalyst video driver and it crashes on a semi-weekly basis, meaning both screens flicker and then go out and the only recourse is a restart. It's incredible to me that a two year old OS can still not have some basic video card support while XP has always worked flawlessly for me.

mattmaroon 18y ago
So it's Microsoft to blame for ATI Catalyst not working?
- mechanical_fish 18y ago
  Why not? See Gutmann, Peter: "A Cost Analysis of Windows Content Protection": http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html Windows Vista includes an extensive reworking of core OS elements in order to provide content protection for so-called “premium content”, typically HD data from Blu-Ray and HD-DVD sources. Providing this protection incurs considerable costs in terms of system performance, system stability, technical support overhead, and hardware and software cost. These issues affect not only users of Vista but the entire PC industry, since the effects of the protection measures extend to cover all hardware and software that will ever come into contact with Vista... Even before Vista was released, this guy predicted that third-party hardware would exhibit persistent stability problems with Vista. And, lo, the reports from the field just keep coming in, even years later. (Though presumably the bugs have gradually been worked out by this point.) (Note that I can't report any bad Vista experiences myself; I have not used it.)
  - mattmaroon 18y ago
    I hope you're kidding. Reports from the field about bugs in every operating system come in for years. I've heard nothing about systemic graphics card driver problems. I don't think it's fair to take a report from someone with a clear anti-drm agenda and assume from it that Vista is what's causing some else's ATI Catalyst driver to malfunction.
briansmith 18y ago
ATI catalyst's software caused problems for me, even on Windows XP. I uninstalled CCC and I just use the driver. My computer runs much better since I did that.
- latortuga 18y ago
  Thank you for the tip, I'll try that.
ivank 18y ago
Any crashes with my NVidia card just lead to a restart of the Forceware driver (no reboot).

mattmaroon 18y ago

So it's Microsoft to blame for ATI Catalyst not working?

mechanical_fish 18y ago
Why not? See Gutmann, Peter: "A Cost Analysis of Windows Content Protection": http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html Windows Vista includes an extensive reworking of core OS elements in order to provide content protection for so-called “premium content”, typically HD data from Blu-Ray and HD-DVD sources. Providing this protection incurs considerable costs in terms of system performance, system stability, technical support overhead, and hardware and software cost. These issues affect not only users of Vista but the entire PC industry, since the effects of the protection measures extend to cover all hardware and software that will ever come into contact with Vista... Even before Vista was released, this guy predicted that third-party hardware would exhibit persistent stability problems with Vista. And, lo, the reports from the field just keep coming in, even years later. (Though presumably the bugs have gradually been worked out by this point.) (Note that I can't report any bad Vista experiences myself; I have not used it.)
- mattmaroon 18y ago
  I hope you're kidding. Reports from the field about bugs in every operating system come in for years. I've heard nothing about systemic graphics card driver problems. I don't think it's fair to take a report from someone with a clear anti-drm agenda and assume from it that Vista is what's causing some else's ATI Catalyst driver to malfunction.

briansmith 18y ago

ATI catalyst's software caused problems for me, even on Windows XP. I uninstalled CCC and I just use the driver. My computer runs much better since I did that.

latortuga 18y ago
Thank you for the tip, I'll try that.

ivank 18y ago

Any crashes with my NVidia card just lead to a restart of the Forceware driver (no reboot).