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I feel like 90% of AI discussions online these days can be shut down with “a probabilistic syllable generator is not intelligence”
by shmatt 2y ago
I feel like 90% of AI discussions online these days can be shut down with “a probabilistic syllable generator is not intelligence”
- WalterSear 2y agoThat hasn't worked for me.
- Zambyte 2y agoHumans are not fact machines, we are often wrong. Do humans not have intelligence? What do you even mean by "intelligence" when you say a probabilistic syllable generator "is not intelligence"?
- dotnet00 2y agoLike clockwork, out come the "but humans" deflections. An LLM is not a human-like intelligence. This is patently obvious, such comparisons are nonsensical and just further the problem of people anthropomorphizing a tool and treating it like an oracle.
- Zambyte 2y agoYou didn't answer the question.
- dotnet00 2y agoI did, I said they aren't human-like intelligences, so countering with "humans make mistakes, are humans not intelligent?" is drawing a false equivalence between humans and LLMs. Since we do not possess a definition of intelligence that isn't human-like, it would be meaningless to argue if LLMs are intelligent in general. All that can be said is that they are not intelligent in the way that humans are.
- Zambyte 2y agoThe question you answered was rhetorical; obviously humans are intelligent. There is another question that actually has an interesting answer after it. In fact, it's not possible to have a meaningful discussion without answering it. I thought that was obvious :)
- dotnet00 2y agoMaybe I'm miscommunicating, I know that the question about whether or not humans are intelligent is rhetorical. What I'm trying to say is that "humans make mistakes and are obviously intelligent, so a probabilistic syllable generator can be considered intelligent despite making mistakes" does not necessarily follow because at best they're different kinds of intelligences. In my rush to be a smartass, I did miss that you also asked what definition of intelligence they were working with though, so I suppose I didn't really add anything besides unnecessary snark (-‿-")
- BriggyDwiggs42 2y agoHow do you define intelligence?
- rsynnott 2y agoEven people who _know_ that often seem to have difficulty intuitively believing it, is the trouble; it's very good at _appearing_ to be intelligent, good enough that even people who should know better sometimes think that the correctness problems are just a case of "need more GPUs", rather than insoluble.