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My gut instinct from reading about the phenomenon says that a “grokked” model of X parameters on Y tokens is not going to outperform an “ungrokked” model with 2
by fwlr 2y ago
My gut instinct from reading about the phenomenon says that a “grokked” model of X parameters on Y tokens is not going to outperform an “ungrokked” model with 2X parameters on 2Y tokens - since “grokking” uses the same resources as parameter and token scaling, it’s simply not a competitive scaling mechanism at the moment. It might make sense in some applications where some other hard limit (e.g. memory capacity at inference time) occurs before your resource limit AND you would still see good returns on improvements in quality, but I suspect those are still fairly narrow and/or rare applications.
- joelthelion 2y agoWouldn't it be super useful in cases where data is limited?
- d3m0t3p 2y agoAccording to https://arxiv.org/abs/2405.15071 https://arxiv.org/abs/2405.15071 their grokked model outperformed GPT4 and Gemini1.5 on the reasoning task. We can then argue if the task makes sense and the conclusion stands for other use cases but i think grokking can be useful