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Most of 14-15 years old girls are not romantically active as it seems, and when they are, they would overwhelmingly prefer older boys (with the 2 years rule et

Most of 14-15 years old girls are not romantically active as it seems, and when they are, they would overwhelmingly prefer older boys (with the 2 years rule et al). As a 14 years old boy you're not really going to date 12 years old girls obviously. 16 years old girls may date anyone from 14 to 35. Some of them are not romantically active and ones who are, will overwhelmingly prefer older boys and young men. That would explain the extreme opportunity squeeze that I was describing. It's the same issue with 35 years old women with their peer 35 years old men who now have jobs and a car and now may easily date those 20-24 years old girls they were previously not getting. Except more severe because 35 years old women have resources and choices that young boys don't. They also have the experience of being in demand in the past. Apologies, but I was reading that you are claiming that dating at 14 years old damages your future prospects. Perhaps I couldn't parse. I'm just at loss why you don't list the negatives of NOT watching pornography, such as feeling lonely, worthless and desperate, not having any meaning to your life, and not having any way to divert these thoughts. I would attribute erectile dysfunction and pre-mature ejaculation to not being in any romantic demand for multiple formative years leading to major distortion of your self-esteem and therefore to fear of rejection and extreme anxiety of not performing. Which then becomes self-fulfilling prophercy and learned helplessness. Not to mention the "false expectation" of always being turned down by any potential mate in your life. And not to porn. People who watched little porn probably didn't really need to be romantically active so they just skipped the whole rack torture experience and that's why they perform better later on, when opportunity presents and they do not have that burden. Fortunately I don't need extra money so kidneys stay.

arandomusername 2y ago
Speaking from personal experience when I was in school, there were a a decent amount of relationships between students in the same year(often sharing some sort of classes). > Apologies, but I was reading that you are claiming that dating at 14 years old damages your future prospects. Perhaps I couldn't parse. To avoid any confusion, my stance is: Regular pornography viewing (as a 14 year old or as an adult) hurts your perception of what normal relationships/sex are and will hurt your relationships, in the future or in the current. Additionally it creates complacency as it's easier to put on a website and rub one out than it is to improve yourself to be a good candidate, and go out and meet women. Additionally the porn industry is very harmful towards women (sex trafficking, and incentivizing 18 year old women to perform, when your prefrontal cortex isn't fully developed yet). > I'm just at loss why you don't list the negatives of NOT watching pornography I don't believe there's any beside quick release. > such as feeling lonely, worthless and desperate, not having any meaning to your life, and not having any way to divert these thoughts I disagree that pornography viewing actually helps combat any of those. I would say it actually helps those grow. Feeling of loneliness is at it's highest, and so is pornography viewing (but, correlation does not mean causation). I don't think you can replace real human interactions with pornography (or parasocial relationships, for that matter). I'm curious, do you think AI boyfriend/girlfriend/friend is/will be a plus or a negative on society? I do agree on what you said about dysfunction/pre-mature ejaculation, but I don't think it's the only factor. I think that porn can also contribute. Either through "death-grip", unrealistic expectation of sex/beauty, or requiring more "hardcore"/"extreme" content to become aroused.
- randomdata 2y ago
  > Feeling of loneliness is at its highest The research attributes this mainly to the decline in alcohol consumption. Which I suppose isn't terribly surprising. Alcohol has been long known as the "social lubricant" for good reason. > and so is pornography viewing (but, correlation does not mean causation). Causation is not implied, but at the same time it wouldn't be very human-like to see that decline in alcohol consumption be replaced by nothing, so perhaps you are onto something. Perhaps alcohol consumption is on the decline because porn is taking its place. They do both target dopamine production, so it is not inconceivable. The temperance movement putting more emphasis on pornography lends additional credence to the idea, although perhaps that is simply because they feel they are finally starting to "win the war" on alcohol. > I'm curious, do you think AI boyfriend/girlfriend/friend is/will be a plus or a negative on society? You can always tell when you are around tech people. Hint: The real world isn't binary.
- thriftwy 2y ago
  I believe that "AI girlfriend" is bullshit. Romantic relations are inherently socially validating. Having an AI talk to you does not validate you. It does not have any choice, after all. "Decent amount of relationships" is bullshit. There's a decent number of housing and renting anywhere housing crisis is taking place. It is purely a question of supply and demand and therefore odds. It is as reasonable to say "look, some students are having relationships so you're a-OK" as "look, some people are renting and even buying homes, why aren't you happy". The demand formula is overwhelmingly stacked against young boys. They had their options a hundred years ago; and fifty years ago perhaps they were just supposed to cope in the late-adolescence doll-house setup, but today it increasingly looks like you have no mouth but must scream.

arandomusername 2y ago

Speaking from personal experience when I was in school, there were a a decent amount of relationships between students in the same year(often sharing some sort of classes). > Apologies, but I was reading that you are claiming that dating at 14 years old damages your future prospects. Perhaps I couldn't parse. To avoid any confusion, my stance is: Regular pornography viewing (as a 14 year old or as an adult) hurts your perception of what normal relationships/sex are and will hurt your relationships, in the future or in the current. Additionally it creates complacency as it's easier to put on a website and rub one out than it is to improve yourself to be a good candidate, and go out and meet women. Additionally the porn industry is very harmful towards women (sex trafficking, and incentivizing 18 year old women to perform, when your prefrontal cortex isn't fully developed yet). > I'm just at loss why you don't list the negatives of NOT watching pornography I don't believe there's any beside quick release. > such as feeling lonely, worthless and desperate, not having any meaning to your life, and not having any way to divert these thoughts I disagree that pornography viewing actually helps combat any of those. I would say it actually helps those grow. Feeling of loneliness is at it's highest, and so is pornography viewing (but, correlation does not mean causation). I don't think you can replace real human interactions with pornography (or parasocial relationships, for that matter). I'm curious, do you think AI boyfriend/girlfriend/friend is/will be a plus or a negative on society? I do agree on what you said about dysfunction/pre-mature ejaculation, but I don't think it's the only factor. I think that porn can also contribute. Either through "death-grip", unrealistic expectation of sex/beauty, or requiring more "hardcore"/"extreme" content to become aroused.

randomdata 2y ago
> Feeling of loneliness is at its highest The research attributes this mainly to the decline in alcohol consumption. Which I suppose isn't terribly surprising. Alcohol has been long known as the "social lubricant" for good reason. > and so is pornography viewing (but, correlation does not mean causation). Causation is not implied, but at the same time it wouldn't be very human-like to see that decline in alcohol consumption be replaced by nothing, so perhaps you are onto something. Perhaps alcohol consumption is on the decline because porn is taking its place. They do both target dopamine production, so it is not inconceivable. The temperance movement putting more emphasis on pornography lends additional credence to the idea, although perhaps that is simply because they feel they are finally starting to "win the war" on alcohol. > I'm curious, do you think AI boyfriend/girlfriend/friend is/will be a plus or a negative on society? You can always tell when you are around tech people. Hint: The real world isn't binary.
thriftwy 2y ago
I believe that "AI girlfriend" is bullshit. Romantic relations are inherently socially validating. Having an AI talk to you does not validate you. It does not have any choice, after all. "Decent amount of relationships" is bullshit. There's a decent number of housing and renting anywhere housing crisis is taking place. It is purely a question of supply and demand and therefore odds. It is as reasonable to say "look, some students are having relationships so you're a-OK" as "look, some people are renting and even buying homes, why aren't you happy". The demand formula is overwhelmingly stacked against young boys. They had their options a hundred years ago; and fifty years ago perhaps they were just supposed to cope in the late-adolescence doll-house setup, but today it increasingly looks like you have no mouth but must scream.