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Fuck those pay2win servers, they are exploitative, promote gambling and pray on children.

espresso39 2y ago
MuxCraft did not have any gambling until 2020, where it was already in serious decline like most older german servers They added gambling as what seemed a last ditch effort to attract new users
12345hn6789 2y ago
Yup. Folks like to bring up Roblox (rightfully) with regards to gambling and hosting shady real $money shops for in game items but AFAIK (public) Minecraft servers have been doing this since at least 2012. "Pay $20 for a 'rank' on our server! You get extra goodies!". "This special diamond sword is only $1!". Really an under reported stat imo. These servers are under the radar.
devin 2y ago
I do agree that it is lame. However, money sinks like gambling can be seen as a part of the in-game economy and are a useful tool to take money out of circulation. I don’t necessarily have a problem with judicious use of it, but if the point of the server becomes buying in-game currency to lose it at the poker table, then yeah, that’s exploiting your users.
- robertlagrant 2y ago
  > and are a useful tool to take money out of circulation What does this mean? What money is being taken out of circulation?
  - bravetraveler 2y ago
    I assume the money going into their pocket, 10/10 thieves (winners) recommend theft (winning) That's totally hyperbole. Perhaps they find themselves luckier than average - like most :) People overestimate this fairly easily/often. It's vague... Counter point: opportunity cost. Nobody can say what will/won't happen, why even try to guess at this. Most endeavors don't go as poorly as gambling. In my experience at least
  - moehm 2y ago
    If they talk about in-game currency, probably they mean mudflation. It's like inflation, but in games. If you can produce in-game currency out of nothing, the value drops.
    - robertlagrant 2y ago
      Oh - I see. In-game currency is taken out of circulation.
    - devin 2y ago
      Yes, this was what I was trying to describe.

MuxCraft did not have any gambling until 2020, where it was already in serious decline like most older german servers They added gambling as what seemed a last ditch effort to attract new users

12345hn6789 2y ago

Yup. Folks like to bring up Roblox (rightfully) with regards to gambling and hosting shady real $money shops for in game items but AFAIK (public) Minecraft servers have been doing this since at least 2012. "Pay $20 for a 'rank' on our server! You get extra goodies!". "This special diamond sword is only $1!". Really an under reported stat imo. These servers are under the radar.

devin 2y ago

I do agree that it is lame. However, money sinks like gambling can be seen as a part of the in-game economy and are a useful tool to take money out of circulation. I don’t necessarily have a problem with judicious use of it, but if the point of the server becomes buying in-game currency to lose it at the poker table, then yeah, that’s exploiting your users.

robertlagrant 2y ago
> and are a useful tool to take money out of circulation What does this mean? What money is being taken out of circulation?
- bravetraveler 2y ago
  I assume the money going into their pocket, 10/10 thieves (winners) recommend theft (winning) That's totally hyperbole. Perhaps they find themselves luckier than average - like most :) People overestimate this fairly easily/often. It's vague... Counter point: opportunity cost. Nobody can say what will/won't happen, why even try to guess at this. Most endeavors don't go as poorly as gambling. In my experience at least
- moehm 2y ago
  If they talk about in-game currency, probably they mean mudflation. It's like inflation, but in games. If you can produce in-game currency out of nothing, the value drops.
  - robertlagrant 2y ago
    Oh - I see. In-game currency is taken out of circulation.
  - devin 2y ago
    Yes, this was what I was trying to describe.