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14 year olds can date other 14 year olds, but it also damages their relationships in the future. Porn is an addiction that is damaging.

thriftwy 2y ago
If you think that general dating is skewed against men, but also against older women; just watch that one of 14 year old boys. It is a minor miracle if you date at 14 years old. Just about everything is stacked against you. As a 39 years old I believe that this experience has irrepairably damaged my expectation of interactions. It's completely OK if you're content with not having any romantic life at 14! But what if you're not? WRT "damages their relationships in the future" - I can't imagine that, except by these superhuman types who are able to have relations at 14 not really feeling the need of having stable relationship when they in their prime, since they can JIT romantic life out of thin air. In any case, why would you owe anything to your future selves? They got all your stuff without lifting a finger, whereas they didn't lift that finger a bit to help you (since they're obviously in the future).
- arandomusername 2y ago
  > just watch that one of 14 year old boys. If you're in a mixed gender school, you're basically in a building with hundred of potential candidates. > It is a minor miracle if you date at 14 years old. Just about everything is stacked against you I disagree. Your only competition is other 14-16(hopefully not higher) year olds, none of whom have careers! > It's completely OK if you're content with not having any romantic life at 14! But what if you're not? So if you're not you're supposed to resort to pornography? How will that help? > WRT "damages their relationships in the future" - I can't imagine that Do you believe either of the two below? - Watching pornography creates a false expectation/perception of actual relationships & sex? - Regular pornography consumption can lead to erectile dysfunction / pre-mature ejaculation? > why would you owe anything to your future selves? Why not sell your extra kidney, get some dough. You don't owe that kidney to your future self.
  - wkat4242 2y ago
    > Do you believe either of the two below? No, absolutely not.
  - randomdata 2y ago
    > If you're in a mixed gender school, you're basically in a building with hundred of potential candidates. And if you are in a professional sports venue during a scheduled professional sporting event you are basically in a building with hundreds of thousands of potential athletes. > Your only competition is other 14-16(hopefully not higher) year olds, none of whom have careers! None of them? I had my career at 14. Still at it many decades later. Regardless, I suspect at 14 the biggest competition you are up against is that which you have failed to mention: Nobody. It is not down to either you or someone else. The romantic interests involved can easily choose to not get involved with anyone.
    - arandomusername 2y ago
      > And if you are in a professional sports venue during a scheduled professional sporting event you are basically in a building with hundreds of thousands of potential athletes. That does not hold, as they are there to watch. More accurate comparison would be, if you are into tech, going to a tech conference, you are in a building with hundreds/thousands of potential employees, employers, partners, etc. > None of them? I had my career at 14. Still at it many decades later. Well done, but you are an exception. "none" is not meant literally. i.e humans have 5 fingers. Yes, some have 6, but for the most part, we have 5. > The romantic interests involved can easily choose to not get involved with anyone. In your school, were there no relationships?
      - randomdata 2y ago
        > as they are there to watch. Or left to watch because they weren't good enough to be chosen to play? If a team pulled someone from the crowd to join in, the selected is saying no every time? Colour me skeptical. > Well done, but you are an exception. I'd say about half of the people I went to school with are still doing the same thing they were doing at 14. I'm not sure that is a marker of exceptionalism, but, indeed, that still leaves many 14 year-olds with only a job. But is there a meaningful difference between a career and a job in this context? > i.e humans have 5 fingers. Yes, some have 6, but for the most part, we have 5. And here I am counting ten. Do you hang out with inattentive lawnmower enthusiasts? > In your school, were there no relationships? Not something I ever felt the need to keep tabs on, I'm afraid. The data suggests that most 14 year-olds are virgins, though, so while it is possible respondents are prone to lie, if we take it at face value that would suggest that by and large they are not forming such romantic relationships, either by their own accord or because they are unable to find a willing mate.
randomdata 2y ago
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- arandomusername 2y ago
  Why do you keep trying to bring me, personally, into this situation? Why are you so obsessed with relationships between teenagers and adults?
  - randomdata 2y ago
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    - arandomusername 2y ago
      I find your implication absolutely disgusting. Please stop projecting. I also don't think 14 year olds should have access to smokes/vapes. What do you make of that?
      - randomdata 2y ago
        It is your life to live, but if your actions disgust you, why be that person? I had no interest in smokes/vapes at 14 years old (or now, for that matter). What would I have gained by seeing restrictions on them when I was 14 years old?
        arandomusername 2y ago
        Again, please stop projecting. I am not the one who wants to expose 14 year olds to sex. I was not sexually trafficked when I was 14 year olds, so what would I have gained from sex trafficking being illegal, right? Your line of thinking makes no sense.
        randomdata 2y ago
        > I am not the one who wants to expose 14 year olds to sex. You indicated that it would be a future relationship, so nobody was previously under the impression you would be exposing a 14 year old to sex. Of course, now that you have suggested it out of the blue... > I was not sexually trafficked when I was 14 year olds, so what would I have gained from sex trafficking being illegal, right? No. That does not logically follow. I would not have wanted to be trafficked at 14, so any circumstances that prevented that from happening would have been valued. The question was: What would I have gained by being restricted from accessing something I already had no interest in accessing?
seadan83 2y ago
Porn can be addicting. The statement "is an addiction" is too absolutist, it's incorrect. As an example, not everyone that drinks is an alcoholic.

thriftwy 2y ago

If you think that general dating is skewed against men, but also against older women; just watch that one of 14 year old boys. It is a minor miracle if you date at 14 years old. Just about everything is stacked against you. As a 39 years old I believe that this experience has irrepairably damaged my expectation of interactions. It's completely OK if you're content with not having any romantic life at 14! But what if you're not? WRT "damages their relationships in the future" - I can't imagine that, except by these superhuman types who are able to have relations at 14 not really feeling the need of having stable relationship when they in their prime, since they can JIT romantic life out of thin air. In any case, why would you owe anything to your future selves? They got all your stuff without lifting a finger, whereas they didn't lift that finger a bit to help you (since they're obviously in the future).

arandomusername 2y ago
> just watch that one of 14 year old boys. If you're in a mixed gender school, you're basically in a building with hundred of potential candidates. > It is a minor miracle if you date at 14 years old. Just about everything is stacked against you I disagree. Your only competition is other 14-16(hopefully not higher) year olds, none of whom have careers! > It's completely OK if you're content with not having any romantic life at 14! But what if you're not? So if you're not you're supposed to resort to pornography? How will that help? > WRT "damages their relationships in the future" - I can't imagine that Do you believe either of the two below? - Watching pornography creates a false expectation/perception of actual relationships & sex? - Regular pornography consumption can lead to erectile dysfunction / pre-mature ejaculation? > why would you owe anything to your future selves? Why not sell your extra kidney, get some dough. You don't owe that kidney to your future self.
- wkat4242 2y ago
  > Do you believe either of the two below? No, absolutely not.
- randomdata 2y ago
  > If you're in a mixed gender school, you're basically in a building with hundred of potential candidates. And if you are in a professional sports venue during a scheduled professional sporting event you are basically in a building with hundreds of thousands of potential athletes. > Your only competition is other 14-16(hopefully not higher) year olds, none of whom have careers! None of them? I had my career at 14. Still at it many decades later. Regardless, I suspect at 14 the biggest competition you are up against is that which you have failed to mention: Nobody. It is not down to either you or someone else. The romantic interests involved can easily choose to not get involved with anyone.
  - arandomusername 2y ago
    > And if you are in a professional sports venue during a scheduled professional sporting event you are basically in a building with hundreds of thousands of potential athletes. That does not hold, as they are there to watch. More accurate comparison would be, if you are into tech, going to a tech conference, you are in a building with hundreds/thousands of potential employees, employers, partners, etc. > None of them? I had my career at 14. Still at it many decades later. Well done, but you are an exception. "none" is not meant literally. i.e humans have 5 fingers. Yes, some have 6, but for the most part, we have 5. > The romantic interests involved can easily choose to not get involved with anyone. In your school, were there no relationships?
    - randomdata 2y ago
      > as they are there to watch. Or left to watch because they weren't good enough to be chosen to play? If a team pulled someone from the crowd to join in, the selected is saying no every time? Colour me skeptical. > Well done, but you are an exception. I'd say about half of the people I went to school with are still doing the same thing they were doing at 14. I'm not sure that is a marker of exceptionalism, but, indeed, that still leaves many 14 year-olds with only a job. But is there a meaningful difference between a career and a job in this context? > i.e humans have 5 fingers. Yes, some have 6, but for the most part, we have 5. And here I am counting ten. Do you hang out with inattentive lawnmower enthusiasts? > In your school, were there no relationships? Not something I ever felt the need to keep tabs on, I'm afraid. The data suggests that most 14 year-olds are virgins, though, so while it is possible respondents are prone to lie, if we take it at face value that would suggest that by and large they are not forming such romantic relationships, either by their own accord or because they are unable to find a willing mate.

randomdata 2y ago

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arandomusername 2y ago
Why do you keep trying to bring me, personally, into this situation? Why are you so obsessed with relationships between teenagers and adults?
- randomdata 2y ago
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  - arandomusername 2y ago
    I find your implication absolutely disgusting. Please stop projecting. I also don't think 14 year olds should have access to smokes/vapes. What do you make of that?
    - randomdata 2y ago
      It is your life to live, but if your actions disgust you, why be that person? I had no interest in smokes/vapes at 14 years old (or now, for that matter). What would I have gained by seeing restrictions on them when I was 14 years old?
      - arandomusername 2y ago
        Again, please stop projecting. I am not the one who wants to expose 14 year olds to sex. I was not sexually trafficked when I was 14 year olds, so what would I have gained from sex trafficking being illegal, right? Your line of thinking makes no sense.
        randomdata 2y ago
        > I am not the one who wants to expose 14 year olds to sex. You indicated that it would be a future relationship, so nobody was previously under the impression you would be exposing a 14 year old to sex. Of course, now that you have suggested it out of the blue... > I was not sexually trafficked when I was 14 year olds, so what would I have gained from sex trafficking being illegal, right? No. That does not logically follow. I would not have wanted to be trafficked at 14, so any circumstances that prevented that from happening would have been valued. The question was: What would I have gained by being restricted from accessing something I already had no interest in accessing?

seadan83 2y ago

Porn can be addicting. The statement "is an addiction" is too absolutist, it's incorrect. As an example, not everyone that drinks is an alcoholic.