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IIUC, it depends how the patient would lose that weight. Afaict, these drugs work by lowering appetite overall and making people poop out lots of food before i
by diydsp 2y ago
IIUC, it depends how the patient would lose that weight. Afaict, these drugs work by lowering appetite overall and making people poop out lots of food before it's fully digested. If the patient macros are still bad, the same proportions as before the drug, they'll have deficiencies such as protein, fiber, electrolytes, vitamins (esp fat-soluble ones), etc. But hopefully it's just for short term. (star)
So to get back to your question, one could lose the weight in the best possible way by correcting their diet, eating less, doing HIIT, fasting, good supplements like creatine, stress reduction through breath work and meditation, and resistance training and end up in a very strong position.
Please anyone correct me on this.
(star) Anecdote about my friend: He went on Metformin for a few years, had lots of diarrhea, and lost about 30 pounds and is skinnier than me. At this point, he could really really get into a strong health position having had that shortcut. His eating habits even got a little better from wearing a glucose monitor. He's sick of the diarrhea which really keeps him from wanting to be out of the house for long, and is slowly looking for some intriguing physical activities. So I think these drugs can help people.
- rho138 2y agoHey friend, what’s IIUC stand for?
- gbnwl 2y agoIIUC it stands for "If I understand correctly"
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- nyokodo 2y ago> one could lose the weight in the best possible way by correcting their diet, eating less, doing HIIT, fasting Yes, but actually doing that when you’re obese is extremely difficult and maintaining it is even harder than that. The best way I can describe how difficult, it’s like climbing Mt Everest and then discovering that you have to live up there. Lots of people do manage the climb, but staying up there is the real challenge and not a big percentage of people do. So, statements like yours while they’re technically true are ignorant of the biological and psycho-social dynamics of obesity, condescending (“why didn’t I think of just eating less!?”) and totally unhelpful.
- tuatoru 2y agoI don't think HIIT or fasting is necessary. A workmate's father (BMI >> 40) went to BMI < 30 by getting a job as a security guard, and walking ten miles a night. From my own hiking experience, that the first few days my appetite is suppressed, and similar reports from others, anthropomorphizing the body a bit it says "well, if we're going to be moving around this much, I don't want to carry all this weight". Just walk.
- stavros 2y agoJust because your friend's dad did it doesn't mean it's easy. It's not like everyone can just spend eight hours a night walking, and it also sounds like your friend's dad ate less just because he didn't have as much time to eat what he used to eat before. "Become a security guard" isn't sustainable advice for weight loss. Source: I work at a healthcare company that does weight loss, among other things.
- tuatoru 2y agoType 2 diabetes, hypertension and cardiovascular problems are the really unsustainable things here. Get your priorities straight.
- stavros 2y agoOh wow, that's such a great idea! We never tried telling people to get their priorities straight, but now that you mention it, it seems like such an obvious way to sustained weight loss! You're a genius!
- tuatoru 2y agoDo you tell people in so many words, "you're going to die soon"? The obsession with emotional safety that is prevalent these days is probably killing people.
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- stavros 2y agoBut for two people who weigh the exact same to begin with, and eat the exact same after starting, does the person on the drug lose more muscle mass than the person not on the drug?
- suzzer99 2y agoI don't think so based on personal experience. I'm losing weight on the drug because I'm eating less. However, there is some science now to suggest that the body has other means of lowering BMI and reducing fat burn when it thinks it's starving (IE - any time it's losing weight). So it could be that my body not being in a panic is also helping to lose weight. But I'd bet it's largely just less calories.
- suzzer99 2y ago* Er I meant BMR there. Too late to edit.