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I'm really interested if, in the future, obesity will be treated like alcohol-induced fatty liver, track marks, and other medical signs of addiction and not som

I'm really interested if, in the future, obesity will be treated like alcohol-induced fatty liver, track marks, and other medical signs of addiction and not some kind of moral failure on the obese person. This also tracks with knowing addiction can sometimes be caused by childhood trauma (obese people are more likely to be traumatized as kids), genetic predisposition(obesity runs in families), and neurodevelopmental diseases like ADHD (obesity prevalence higher in people with ADHD). In this view obesity is more like a tragic compulsion resulting from things out of a fat person's control and not some kind of "put down the cheeseburger sometime" activity to willpower onesself out of. EDITED: Hey, am I saying something wrong or irrelevant here? (sitting at -3, but I don't think I've been particularly inflammatory or offtopic)

doubled112 2y ago
> neurodevelopmental diseases like ADHD (obesity prevalence higher in people with ADHD) Interesting. Every person I have ever known with ADHD was skinny, at least compared to the people around them. Not saying my anecdata counts for anything, but it's funny how this works. Impulse control issues? Some comorbidity? Forgetfulness? For myself, at least, forgetting to eat makes me hungry, and then I overeat because I'm clearly going to wither away to nothing in moments and I lack self control. I'd be (more) overweight if this was a constant thing.
- KittenInABox 2y ago
  It might be that this is still undergoing research. Originally published in 2002 [1] a later followup paper in 2019 [2] points out ADHD points to a number of inflammation-related conditions like asthma and obesity. It's still not known the exact underlying mechanisms! I'm just really interested that obesity seems to be increasingly not a voluntary choice. 1. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC130024/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC130024/ 2. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6826981/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6826981/
CMCDragonkai 2y ago
Interestingly the more we science out people's behaviour the less we will believe in our own free will.

doubled112 2y ago

> neurodevelopmental diseases like ADHD (obesity prevalence higher in people with ADHD) Interesting. Every person I have ever known with ADHD was skinny, at least compared to the people around them. Not saying my anecdata counts for anything, but it's funny how this works. Impulse control issues? Some comorbidity? Forgetfulness? For myself, at least, forgetting to eat makes me hungry, and then I overeat because I'm clearly going to wither away to nothing in moments and I lack self control. I'd be (more) overweight if this was a constant thing.

KittenInABox 2y ago
It might be that this is still undergoing research. Originally published in 2002 [1] a later followup paper in 2019 [2] points out ADHD points to a number of inflammation-related conditions like asthma and obesity. It's still not known the exact underlying mechanisms! I'm just really interested that obesity seems to be increasingly not a voluntary choice. 1. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC130024/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC130024/ 2. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6826981/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6826981/

CMCDragonkai 2y ago

Interestingly the more we science out people's behaviour the less we will believe in our own free will.