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Women get dismissed a lot by doctors. (This is common enough knowledge I'm not going to provide citations in spite of being a woman posting on an overwhelmingly

Women get dismissed a lot by doctors. (This is common enough knowledge I'm not going to provide citations in spite of being a woman posting on an overwhelmingly male forum. If you downvote this without doing a quick google: There's your problem.) When I was a homemaker and having serious health issues, I sometimes wore a suit to see a medical professional to try to get them to take me more seriously. I used to bitch to friends that I felt like pinning a list of my academic achievements to my lapel. "Oh, it's a homemaker. Must be stupid! Couldn't possibly have been a good student in school! Smart women all have serious careers." Yeah, sure. That's reality./s

wing-_-nuts 2y ago
If 200 people presented with alcohol intoxication and no history of use, 199 would be secret alcoholics sneaking booze, and maybe 1 would be someone with this condition. The previous case I read about, they forced the poor guy to inpatient for weeks to rule out alcohol use. It's not just 'doctors don't believe women' it's 'doctors don't believe (probable) addicts'.
- roxya 2y ago
  Yeah, as a man nobody would believe me either. I was in hospital with acute pancreatitis and they found at the same time I had a fatty liver. Both are often explained by heavy alcohol intake. The truth is I hardly drank at all (I had perhaps had a single bottle of beer in the whole previous 12 months) but nobody would believe me. I ended up being told to never drink alcohol again.
  - rvnx 2y ago
    Did you find a solution eventually ?
    - roxya 2y ago
      Not really. Since then I've been unable to eat bananas due to a severe bloated feeling (even a tiny bite causes it), and I found a Japanese research paper about a banana allergy inducing acute pancreatitis. But I don't know for sure if it's linked. I've continued to drink alcohol in moderation for another 15 years+ without issue.
AlgorithmicTime 2y ago
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throwaway173738 2y ago
Yeah I have to go with my wife to doctors visits or they ignore her. All I have to do is sit in the corner and not say anything but my presence is still required for 50% of the doctors she’s seen over the years.
themaninthedark 2y ago
I don't thin this has anything to do with sex... A coworker of mine had back issues, they only took him seriously when he was brought in via ambulance because he couldn't stand a year later after multiple visits to both his GP and hospital. And they still didn't take him seriously, they were going to discharge him in a wheelchair until he pissed himself because he had lost all control of his lower body and couldn't even tell that he had to pee. White guy, steady job and good insurance. To the doctor's it look like someone trying to get pain meds. Edit to change tone
- DoreenMichele 2y ago
  I'm not suggesting gender is solely and entirely The Reason. I don't think I should have to say that. But it's a factor generally for women. Which doesn't assert men always get fabulous results every time, nor does it in any way "rebut" points other people already made elsewhere in this discussion. I was just going to ignore the ridiculous pile on to my comment, but it's not stopping. Folks are blowing it out of proportion. Which may not stop but now I'm on record with that observation.
  - adamomada 2y ago
    You could have just posted “people get dismissed s lot by doctors” and not bring attention to your username or gender, but ya did
    - DoreenMichele 2y ago
      Your comment assumes no one remembers me and no one reacts to my username and gender unless I point it out. This seems implausible to me. I wish it really were that simple. I dont think it is. Additionally, your suggestion fundamentally dismisses my main point: This is apparently a bigger issue for women than men generally. And when men act like it's unreasonable for a woman to be aware this is a bigger issue for women and to toss that detail out there in public discussion, it's just a no win situation for women. The people most impacted are routinely treated like they are whiners who should just shut up and accept that no one will bother to care. And not just about gender. People of color also routinely get treated crappily for being the ones who bring up X issue when no one else will and they bring it up because they are the ones aware of it.
jamesblonde 2y ago
No downvote from me. My wife did her Univerity thesis on this topic, and it's hard to correct for 100 years of RCTs that didn't consider gender, and were mostly male-centric. Never mind a system that churned out mostly male doctors. However, in most Western European countries, we now have a good balance of male/female doctors (trending massively towards more females) and being not believed is much less of an issue.

wing-_-nuts 2y ago

If 200 people presented with alcohol intoxication and no history of use, 199 would be secret alcoholics sneaking booze, and maybe 1 would be someone with this condition. The previous case I read about, they forced the poor guy to inpatient for weeks to rule out alcohol use. It's not just 'doctors don't believe women' it's 'doctors don't believe (probable) addicts'.

roxya 2y ago
Yeah, as a man nobody would believe me either. I was in hospital with acute pancreatitis and they found at the same time I had a fatty liver. Both are often explained by heavy alcohol intake. The truth is I hardly drank at all (I had perhaps had a single bottle of beer in the whole previous 12 months) but nobody would believe me. I ended up being told to never drink alcohol again.
- rvnx 2y ago
  Did you find a solution eventually ?
  - roxya 2y ago
    Not really. Since then I've been unable to eat bananas due to a severe bloated feeling (even a tiny bite causes it), and I found a Japanese research paper about a banana allergy inducing acute pancreatitis. But I don't know for sure if it's linked. I've continued to drink alcohol in moderation for another 15 years+ without issue.

AlgorithmicTime 2y ago

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throwaway173738 2y ago

Yeah I have to go with my wife to doctors visits or they ignore her. All I have to do is sit in the corner and not say anything but my presence is still required for 50% of the doctors she’s seen over the years.

themaninthedark 2y ago

I don't thin this has anything to do with sex... A coworker of mine had back issues, they only took him seriously when he was brought in via ambulance because he couldn't stand a year later after multiple visits to both his GP and hospital. And they still didn't take him seriously, they were going to discharge him in a wheelchair until he pissed himself because he had lost all control of his lower body and couldn't even tell that he had to pee. White guy, steady job and good insurance. To the doctor's it look like someone trying to get pain meds. Edit to change tone

DoreenMichele 2y ago
I'm not suggesting gender is solely and entirely The Reason. I don't think I should have to say that. But it's a factor generally for women. Which doesn't assert men always get fabulous results every time, nor does it in any way "rebut" points other people already made elsewhere in this discussion. I was just going to ignore the ridiculous pile on to my comment, but it's not stopping. Folks are blowing it out of proportion. Which may not stop but now I'm on record with that observation.
- adamomada 2y ago
  You could have just posted “people get dismissed s lot by doctors” and not bring attention to your username or gender, but ya did
  - DoreenMichele 2y ago
    Your comment assumes no one remembers me and no one reacts to my username and gender unless I point it out. This seems implausible to me. I wish it really were that simple. I dont think it is. Additionally, your suggestion fundamentally dismisses my main point: This is apparently a bigger issue for women than men generally. And when men act like it's unreasonable for a woman to be aware this is a bigger issue for women and to toss that detail out there in public discussion, it's just a no win situation for women. The people most impacted are routinely treated like they are whiners who should just shut up and accept that no one will bother to care. And not just about gender. People of color also routinely get treated crappily for being the ones who bring up X issue when no one else will and they bring it up because they are the ones aware of it.

jamesblonde 2y ago

No downvote from me. My wife did her Univerity thesis on this topic, and it's hard to correct for 100 years of RCTs that didn't consider gender, and were mostly male-centric. Never mind a system that churned out mostly male doctors. However, in most Western European countries, we now have a good balance of male/female doctors (trending massively towards more females) and being not believed is much less of an issue.