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MX-30 is not particularly light, nor spacious compared to other "city" EVs. I get that Mazda has a reputable brand, but MX-30 is just an F.U. to the state of C

by pornel 2y ago

MX-30 is not particularly light, nor spacious compared to other "city" EVs. I get that Mazda has a reputable brand, but MX-30 is just an F.U. to the state of California. Mazda sells less than 10 of them per month. Not ten thousand. Just ten. There are small-battery trims of many EVs in the similar price range, usually with faster charging and better range: Kona, MG4, e-C4, Zoe, e-208, Fiat e500, for a slightly higher price there's Volvo EX30. And among short-range difficult-to-charge cars Leaf is cheaper.

Marsymars 2y ago
Again, to me, "more range" as a result of a bigger battery is a negative. And just out of curiosity, I compared local pricing (CAD) - a Kona starts $47k after rebates and incentives and an MX-30 starts at $39k, so pretty hefty difference. For that matter, even the Leaf starts at $42k. As for the Leaf, I wouldn't consider an EV without active cooling on the batteries unless the manufacturer included a lifetime battery warranty.
- pornel 2y ago
  The talk of a light frugal battery is only a marketing spin. The range and usable capacity are small, but the gross battery capacity is only 11% smaller than in Leaf. MX-30 is heavier than Leaf, Kona, and even Tesla Model 3 SR/RWD.
  - Marsymars 2y ago
    > The talk of a light frugal battery is only a marketing spin. I've literally never seen any such marketing. All I've done is look at the spec sheet. > MX-30 is heavier than Leaf, Kona, and even Tesla Model 3 SR/RWD. Not the Kona. Marginally heavier than the lowest trim of the Leaf. But by having a smaller battery, the impression to me is that the weight goes to something useful, rather than battery, so I'm getting more car for the weight. (The base MX-30 is notably more featurful than the base Leaf.) Plus more car for the price, as I've previously mentioned.

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MX-30 is not particularly light, nor spacious compared to other "city" EVs. I get that Mazda has a reputable brand, but MX-30 is just an F.U. to the state of C

by pornel 2y ago

Marsymars 2y ago
Again, to me, "more range" as a result of a bigger battery is a negative. And just out of curiosity, I compared local pricing (CAD) - a Kona starts $47k after rebates and incentives and an MX-30 starts at $39k, so pretty hefty difference. For that matter, even the Leaf starts at $42k. As for the Leaf, I wouldn't consider an EV without active cooling on the batteries unless the manufacturer included a lifetime battery warranty.
- pornel 2y ago
  The talk of a light frugal battery is only a marketing spin. The range and usable capacity are small, but the gross battery capacity is only 11% smaller than in Leaf. MX-30 is heavier than Leaf, Kona, and even Tesla Model 3 SR/RWD.
  - Marsymars 2y ago
    > The talk of a light frugal battery is only a marketing spin. I've literally never seen any such marketing. All I've done is look at the spec sheet. > MX-30 is heavier than Leaf, Kona, and even Tesla Model 3 SR/RWD. Not the Kona. Marginally heavier than the lowest trim of the Leaf. But by having a smaller battery, the impression to me is that the weight goes to something useful, rather than battery, so I'm getting more car for the weight. (The base MX-30 is notably more featurful than the base Leaf.) Plus more car for the price, as I've previously mentioned.