I mean honestly war is a fundamental part of human nature, and if we just got a little bit better at that we could solve the rest of our resource consumption is

I mean honestly war is a fundamental part of human nature, and if we just got a little bit better at that we could solve the rest of our resource consumption issues quickly. Might be a little ancillary damage but you can't make an omelette if you don't break a few eggs! What you might be calling "human nature" is different from country to country. For instance while 5-10% of Americans are vegetarian, 30% of Indians are. Imagine the change in resource consumption if that same number applied to the U.S. Bottom line is humans talk a big game of having more complex reasoning and and problem solving abilities compared to other, less self-aware species, but when it comes down to not mistreating the earth we at HN have a new mantra of "you can't change human nature." To me it just sounds like people throwing in the towel so they can keep consuming 80% of the world's resources.