Yeah, Germany is kind of a bureaucratic hellhole. And from what I know France is even worse. As for formal education - I've seen dozens of people with an engin

Yeah, Germany is kind of a bureaucratic hellhole. And from what I know France is even worse. As for formal education - I've seen dozens of people with an engineering diploma who barely can write a FizzBuzz, so it is not the best indicator and mostly people don't look at it when it comes to recruitment aside from big corps. Although that kinda changed lately as junior positions started evaporating and without experience the diploma is the main thing they check.