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I wonder if they are going to kill open source chat applications.

• seper8 2y ago
  If and how :)
  • phicoh 2y ago
    The how is simple, all devices will be required to be as locked as iphones. No apps on your device unless approved by the vendor. Open source is fine as long as you jump through the hoops to submit it for review.
    • poolopolopolo 2y ago
      so disable dev mode for all phones? This solution is far from simple.
      • KETHERCORTEX 2y ago
        As if one can just grab a PlayStation and start developing for it. The limiting tech already exists.
• graemep 2y ago
  Very likely, and self-hosting too. I imagine some sort of licensing system eventually.
  • anthk 2y ago
    I doubt it. The day it fucks state level companies with issues accessing the Telegram API or libre/FLOSS APIs/services such as GUIX under Inria using XMPP/VoIP tools, the working days of these EU bureaucrats are numbered.
    • constantcrying 2y ago
      Why? In Germany anonymous (self) hosting is already illegal. KYC for chat is only one further step, really not that big.
      • anthk 2y ago
        I'm from Spain, no issues with Germany. Also, is not illegal to self-host, but anonymous self-hosting. Anyway, most people will just set external pages under international hosts anonymously, or under i2pd and yggdrasil. Also, any German can just use SDF with a validated account and call the US law on hosting (and maybe content) instead of the German one.
        • constantcrying 2y ago
          >Also, is not illegal to self-host, but anonymous self-hosting. I think that is what I said. >Anyway, most people will just set external pages under international hosts anonymously, or under i2pd and yggdrasil. "Make yourself a criminal" is not good advice. I don't know what you are trying to tell me. I know that there are technical means to circumvent this, just like there will be technical means to circumvent chat filters. That isn't the issue, the issue is that it is criminal to do so.
          • anthk 2y ago
            In Spain we say 'hecha la ley, hecha la trampa' ( [as soon] the law it's made, a trick its made). So Germans will find lots of loopholes to be covered, such as not using a German hosting first, and not stating their Web/Gopher/Gemini site as a commercial service, with no data collecting at all.
            • constantcrying 2y ago
              >So Germans will find lots of loopholes to be covered, such as not using a German hosting first, and not stating their Web/Gopher/Gemini site as a commercial service, with no data collecting at all. Again, this is criminal. Again, I am aware that there are numerous technical means to circumvent this, yet all of these are criminal. I still don't get what your point is.
• karma_pharmer 2y ago
  Yes, ChatKYC is in the works.