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While this is being put forward by the council, there still is a way to influence the end result by voting for a party not involved in this turd to get it rejec

by consp 2y ago

While this is being put forward by the council, there still is a way to influence the end result by voting for a party not involved in this turd to get it rejected. The EU Pirate Party is still on the ballot in some places. If it ever gets promoted to law, my predictions is: ASCII art is back.

iLoveOncall 2y ago
> If it ever gets promoted to law, my predictions is: ASCII art is back. Actually 99.99% of users won't give a single fuck and will just allow scanning. People don't care at all in case you didn't notice.
- outime 2y ago
  That's exactly what's going to happen, and the few people who actually care will end up in a list. It's all for your own good though, as terrorist and pedos will obviously be like "damn gotta find something else to do now as this is forbidden!".
- consp 2y ago
  It was a sarcastic comment, and I guess you are right. If the detector has a false positive rate of 0.01% that still means ~50000 false hits every day, if every one sends one image daily. And my guess is it's WAY more than that in volume and false positive rate.
- rpastuszak 2y ago
  I'd replace "don't care" with "are intentionally misinformed / not informed enough" or "don't understand the consequences". It's hard to have time to think about these issues when you have zero free time, barely manage to make ends meet, don't have techie friends and are bombarded with propaganda. It's possible, but it's hard, especially when that very propaganda uses the main thing you work your ass off to scare you into submission.
WA 2y ago
Nah, this plan is outright evil. We all learned from the cookie banner madness that everybody just opts-in to everything all the time, just to make the thing go away. This proposal gives us a fake choice, because so many coordination of real life activities happen in WhatsApp in the EU that you have to opt-in to still participate in a meaningful way. I'm not talking about sharing vacation photos with your friends, but stuff like: - here is a link that explains how to do taxes for your nonprofit - here is our new school logo - this is a link to the soccer tournament schedule and so on.
- surgical_fire 2y ago
  > everybody just opts-in to everything all the time, just to make the thing go away. I actually bother to decline those things. So, not everybody. Your statistics are off by at least one.
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  - EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 2y ago
    Usually consent is one click and decline is a lot of extra clicks, if at all available. I just consent to everything and employ a Firefox extension that clears all cookies and site data when a tab is closed.
    - nehal3m 2y ago
      You can also try Consent-O-Matic, a plugin that will tell cookie banners whatever you pre-define. I set it to refuse everything. Doesn't work for all sites, but most that have industry standard banner software installed work.
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  - Moldoteck 2y ago

by consp 2y ago

iLoveOncall 2y ago

> If it ever gets promoted to law, my predictions is: ASCII art is back. Actually 99.99% of users won't give a single fuck and will just allow scanning. People don't care at all in case you didn't notice.

outime 2y ago
That's exactly what's going to happen, and the few people who actually care will end up in a list. It's all for your own good though, as terrorist and pedos will obviously be like "damn gotta find something else to do now as this is forbidden!".
consp 2y ago
It was a sarcastic comment, and I guess you are right. If the detector has a false positive rate of 0.01% that still means ~50000 false hits every day, if every one sends one image daily. And my guess is it's WAY more than that in volume and false positive rate.
rpastuszak 2y ago
I'd replace "don't care" with "are intentionally misinformed / not informed enough" or "don't understand the consequences". It's hard to have time to think about these issues when you have zero free time, barely manage to make ends meet, don't have techie friends and are bombarded with propaganda. It's possible, but it's hard, especially when that very propaganda uses the main thing you work your ass off to scare you into submission.

WA 2y ago

Nah, this plan is outright evil. We all learned from the cookie banner madness that everybody just opts-in to everything all the time, just to make the thing go away. This proposal gives us a fake choice, because so many coordination of real life activities happen in WhatsApp in the EU that you have to opt-in to still participate in a meaningful way. I'm not talking about sharing vacation photos with your friends, but stuff like: - here is a link that explains how to do taxes for your nonprofit - here is our new school logo - this is a link to the soccer tournament schedule and so on.

surgical_fire 2y ago
> everybody just opts-in to everything all the time, just to make the thing go away. I actually bother to decline those things. So, not everybody. Your statistics are off by at least one.
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- EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 2y ago
  Usually consent is one click and decline is a lot of extra clicks, if at all available. I just consent to everything and employ a Firefox extension that clears all cookies and site data when a tab is closed.
  - nehal3m 2y ago
    You can also try Consent-O-Matic, a plugin that will tell cookie banners whatever you pre-define. I set it to refuse everything. Doesn't work for all sites, but most that have industry standard banner software installed work.
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- Moldoteck 2y ago