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A gentle reminder that this week we're voting in EU election so it's a great time to check who supports Chat Control and to vote accordingly. The last attempts

by izacus 2y ago

A gentle reminder that this week we're voting in EU election so it's a great time to check who supports Chat Control and to vote accordingly. The last attempts of this have been stopped by European Parliament so we need to make sure the new one stops it as well.

surfingdino 2y ago
They all do, even if they say they don't.
- pjerem 2y ago
  The parliament already rejected the first proposal so no, there are a lot of MEPs against this.
- izacus 2y ago
  I'm not sure why you spread this kind of crock when EUParl already stopped it once.
mhitza 2y ago
> A gentle reminder that this week we're voting in EU election so it's a great time to check who supports Chat Control and to vote accordingly. Any idea where we can find that information (those who proposed and voted on it)?
- nickexyz 2y ago
  In Sweden we have this: https://chatcontrol.se/status/ https://chatcontrol.se/status/ Hopefully other EU countries has similar sites. If you have a local Pirate Party, that might be a good place to start. I'm guessing they would link such a site.
- throw46365 2y ago
  It’s not, as I understand it, something that the European Parliament has even debated yet. Nobody in the Parliament has proposed or voted on it, unless I have misunderstood. This measure is still being developed by the European Council, which is a non-legislative body. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Council https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Council It would have to be submitted to and taken up by the Parliament for the information you want to exist in a meaningful form. Parliament is not keen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_to_Prevent_and_Combat_Child_Sexual_Abuse#Legislative_process https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_to_Prevent_and_Comb...
- izacus 2y ago
  The first proposal got rejected on the commitee stage, see https://edri.org/our-work/eu-parliament-committee-rejects-mass-scanning-of-private-and-encrypted-communications/ https://edri.org/our-work/eu-parliament-committee-rejects-ma... and https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20231110IPR10118/child-sexual-abuse-online-effective-measures-no-mass-surveillance https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20231110IP... The might be a list of votes there somewhere.
  - scouw 2y ago
    Votes can be seen here (second page): https://www.europarl.europa.eu/cmsdata/277893/Vote%20results_14%20November.pdf https://www.europarl.europa.eu/cmsdata/277893/Vote%20results...
- scouw 2y ago
  You can see who voted for "Amending Interim Regulation on a temporary derogation from certain provisions of the ePrivacy Directive" at https://mepwatch.eu/9/vote.html?v=167712 https://mepwatch.eu/9/vote.html?v=167712, which from what I understand is about extending the duration an earlier version of chat control (1.0) [1] where the scanning is only done by tech companies on platforms such as Xbox and Facebook Messenger [2]. So not quite what is being talked about in the article in this post but definitely related. [1]: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/chatcontrol-1-0-pirates-condemn-extension-by-parliament/ https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/chatcontrol-1-0-pirates-con... [2]: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/european-parliament-o-extend-voluntary-chat-control-with-some-modifications/ https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/european-parliament-o-exten...

by izacus 2y ago

surfingdino 2y ago

They all do, even if they say they don't.

pjerem 2y ago
The parliament already rejected the first proposal so no, there are a lot of MEPs against this.
izacus 2y ago
I'm not sure why you spread this kind of crock when EUParl already stopped it once.

mhitza 2y ago

> A gentle reminder that this week we're voting in EU election so it's a great time to check who supports Chat Control and to vote accordingly. Any idea where we can find that information (those who proposed and voted on it)?

nickexyz 2y ago
In Sweden we have this: https://chatcontrol.se/status/ https://chatcontrol.se/status/ Hopefully other EU countries has similar sites. If you have a local Pirate Party, that might be a good place to start. I'm guessing they would link such a site.
throw46365 2y ago
It’s not, as I understand it, something that the European Parliament has even debated yet. Nobody in the Parliament has proposed or voted on it, unless I have misunderstood. This measure is still being developed by the European Council, which is a non-legislative body. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Council https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Council It would have to be submitted to and taken up by the Parliament for the information you want to exist in a meaningful form. Parliament is not keen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_to_Prevent_and_Combat_Child_Sexual_Abuse#Legislative_process https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_to_Prevent_and_Comb...
izacus 2y ago
The first proposal got rejected on the commitee stage, see https://edri.org/our-work/eu-parliament-committee-rejects-mass-scanning-of-private-and-encrypted-communications/ https://edri.org/our-work/eu-parliament-committee-rejects-ma... and https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20231110IPR10118/child-sexual-abuse-online-effective-measures-no-mass-surveillance https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20231110IP... The might be a list of votes there somewhere.
- scouw 2y ago
  Votes can be seen here (second page): https://www.europarl.europa.eu/cmsdata/277893/Vote%20results_14%20November.pdf https://www.europarl.europa.eu/cmsdata/277893/Vote%20results...
scouw 2y ago
You can see who voted for "Amending Interim Regulation on a temporary derogation from certain provisions of the ePrivacy Directive" at https://mepwatch.eu/9/vote.html?v=167712 https://mepwatch.eu/9/vote.html?v=167712, which from what I understand is about extending the duration an earlier version of chat control (1.0) [1] where the scanning is only done by tech companies on platforms such as Xbox and Facebook Messenger [2]. So not quite what is being talked about in the article in this post but definitely related. [1]: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/chatcontrol-1-0-pirates-condemn-extension-by-parliament/ https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/chatcontrol-1-0-pirates-con... [2]: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/european-parliament-o-extend-voluntary-chat-control-with-some-modifications/ https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/european-parliament-o-exten...