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It's weird how some parts of EU departments are so privacy friendly and forward thinking, and others are so incredibly backwards.

BSDobelix 2y ago
It's not weird, minimal data for corporations maximal data and control for the states, i think it's disgusting but hey they say the EU is democratic so at the end of the day it's our fault.
mrtksn 2y ago
Nothing weird, that's just how governments work when they are not united under a strong leader like Putin or Erdogan. Different organisations have different goals and those into "security" just want to delegate their jobs to computers when they chill, get paid and prized for their success. Some more cynical ones are also plotting for political control, I'm sure. I'm very annoyed by this trend of government organisations really really desire to look into our stuff all the so they don't have to do their jobs the hard way like finding suspects and investigating them. Bunch of wankers and nothing more, aren't they? If aligned government bodies is desired then a dictator is needed. EU isn’t suited for this.
- tryauuum 2y ago
  Hmmm... I can assure you people doing security in the Putin's world also just want to delegate stuff to computers and collect salary
  - mrtksn 2y ago
    I’m sure they will but you won’t have some governmental organizations trying to protect the privacy when others are trying hard to invade it. They will be aligned.
- Maken 2y ago
  I'm seriously surprised by seeing Erdogan and "strong leader" together.
  - mrtksn 2y ago
    Why is that
izacus 2y ago
It's not wierd at all because you assume the same mental framework. What's been obvious for EU politics for years now is that they do not assume government/security privacy violations as same kind of violation as private person/company violating privacy. Remember that GDPR has carveouts for governement as well. Everyone speaks like "privacy" has a common, shared meaning across all people and it couldn't be farther from truth. And we need to keep that in mind - for governments, online posters and even organizations like Signal.

BSDobelix 2y ago

It's not weird, minimal data for corporations maximal data and control for the states, i think it's disgusting but hey they say the EU is democratic so at the end of the day it's our fault.

mrtksn 2y ago

Nothing weird, that's just how governments work when they are not united under a strong leader like Putin or Erdogan. Different organisations have different goals and those into "security" just want to delegate their jobs to computers when they chill, get paid and prized for their success. Some more cynical ones are also plotting for political control, I'm sure. I'm very annoyed by this trend of government organisations really really desire to look into our stuff all the so they don't have to do their jobs the hard way like finding suspects and investigating them. Bunch of wankers and nothing more, aren't they? If aligned government bodies is desired then a dictator is needed. EU isn’t suited for this.

tryauuum 2y ago
Hmmm... I can assure you people doing security in the Putin's world also just want to delegate stuff to computers and collect salary
- mrtksn 2y ago
  I’m sure they will but you won’t have some governmental organizations trying to protect the privacy when others are trying hard to invade it. They will be aligned.
Maken 2y ago
I'm seriously surprised by seeing Erdogan and "strong leader" together.
- mrtksn 2y ago
  Why is that

izacus 2y ago

It's not wierd at all because you assume the same mental framework. What's been obvious for EU politics for years now is that they do not assume government/security privacy violations as same kind of violation as private person/company violating privacy. Remember that GDPR has carveouts for governement as well. Everyone speaks like "privacy" has a common, shared meaning across all people and it couldn't be farther from truth. And we need to keep that in mind - for governments, online posters and even organizations like Signal.