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Why is a lack of wrinkles, or a European nose or a thin waist any more arbitrary than any other measure of beauty? Saying that a hunchback, or bad skin, or croo
by joegibbs 2y ago
Why is a lack of wrinkles, or a European nose or a thin waist any more arbitrary than any other measure of beauty? Saying that a hunchback, or bad skin, or crooked teeth are ugly is no less discriminatory than anything else - the people who are born with those conditions didn't choose to be. And if they are all equally arbitrary, then what is a beautiful person? I don't think it's wrong to say that being fat is an ugly feature any more than anything else is.
If a fat, wrinkly woman or a bald man with a funny-looking face are both beautiful, then what does "beautiful" mean? Should AI simply output a random person who may have any features, since everyone is beautiful?
Rather than trying to say that there are X features that don't impact how attractive someone is, why not just accept that some people are physically ugly, and not hold that against them?
- jrflowers 2y agoThis is a good point. While the subjective definition of beauty may vary wildly from person to person, what value is there in noticing that diffusion models have a specific and narrow set of traits that they output given that prompt? Surely we can all agree on what is ugly because the people that created the labeling pairs to train stable diffusion have done the work of establishing objective truth for us
- malux85 2y ago"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" - Margaret Wolff Hungerford, 1878
- hurrdurr57 2y agoHaven't you heard? Any and all "standards" are in fact maliciously contrived tools of the oppressors and are strictly utilized in order to oppress the oppressed.