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I assume this will apply to all bits. After all, a zip could contain an image, so it should be scanned. And someone might accidently change the file extension f

I assume this will apply to all bits. After all, a zip could contain an image, so it should be scanned. And someone might accidently change the file extension from .jpg to .py.

rstuart4133 2y ago
The point he's making is if they enact this law, it will be trivial for anyone that cares (eg, people who do distribute CP) to bypass if it is implemented as described. They don't even have to stop using Signal or whatever. They just need to plonk whatever they want hidden in a password protected .zip (or something else if that's not strong enough, or use stenography if they ban containers) and send it using Signal as normal. So it won't stop CP, or any other criminal activity that's in the slightest bit cluefull. They must know this, so I'm left scratching my head wondering what they are actually up to.
- cchance 2y ago
  Yep, lol nothing to stop criminals from encrypting the file themselves and sending it across lol theirs hundreds of unhacked encryptions, all the end users need to do is share the passwords outside the spied upon platforms, like this doesn't solve any issues it just strips freedoms from the non-criminals. Shit criminals will just meet and swap usb drives lol, like i don't get how this solves the crime issue. This is like banning monero or crypto because its used illegally.. meanwhile CP and other crimes have used Euro and USD paper money for long before crypto lol but yet "crypto seems shady" is enough reason to point at it as the reason crime exists lol.
- hellojesus 2y ago
  > The point he's making is if they enact this law, it will be trivial for anyone that cares to bypass if it is implemented as described. I took that as a given and therefore described what I would see as scan-creep of the gov implementation regardless of the exact verbiage of the law. My point was that anyone expecting to use the file type as a loophole would likely ne compromised, and the only way to ensure bypass of the scan would be to locally encrypt before transmission, as any text or binary entered into an app affected by this law should be assumed to be fully mined, scanned, and reported to the gov regardless of its contents.

I assume this will apply to all bits. After all, a zip could contain an image, so it should be scanned. And someone might accidently change the file extension from .jpg to .py.

rstuart4133 2y ago

The point he's making is if they enact this law, it will be trivial for anyone that cares (eg, people who do distribute CP) to bypass if it is implemented as described. They don't even have to stop using Signal or whatever. They just need to plonk whatever they want hidden in a password protected .zip (or something else if that's not strong enough, or use stenography if they ban containers) and send it using Signal as normal. So it won't stop CP, or any other criminal activity that's in the slightest bit cluefull. They must know this, so I'm left scratching my head wondering what they are actually up to.

cchance 2y ago
Yep, lol nothing to stop criminals from encrypting the file themselves and sending it across lol theirs hundreds of unhacked encryptions, all the end users need to do is share the passwords outside the spied upon platforms, like this doesn't solve any issues it just strips freedoms from the non-criminals. Shit criminals will just meet and swap usb drives lol, like i don't get how this solves the crime issue. This is like banning monero or crypto because its used illegally.. meanwhile CP and other crimes have used Euro and USD paper money for long before crypto lol but yet "crypto seems shady" is enough reason to point at it as the reason crime exists lol.
hellojesus 2y ago
> The point he's making is if they enact this law, it will be trivial for anyone that cares to bypass if it is implemented as described. I took that as a given and therefore described what I would see as scan-creep of the gov implementation regardless of the exact verbiage of the law. My point was that anyone expecting to use the file type as a loophole would likely ne compromised, and the only way to ensure bypass of the scan would be to locally encrypt before transmission, as any text or binary entered into an app affected by this law should be assumed to be fully mined, scanned, and reported to the gov regardless of its contents.