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"When you find a scorpion at your doorstep" Oh, now I see what meant by "with russian-compatible thought processes". Dehumanizing other people by likening them
by protomolecule 2y ago
"When you find a scorpion at your doorstep"
Oh, now I see what meant by "with russian-compatible thought processes". Dehumanizing other people by likening them to insects and attributing incompatible 'thought processes' sounds familiar. The last time the USSR lost 26 million people because of European invasion.
- effie 2y agoYou misunderstood. I meant the dangerous poisonous nature of the scorpion, not that I hate the insect; I am fascinated by scorpions, but I don't bring them home. I can rephrase - when Russian state official is at your doorstep, and makes suggestions that part of your space will now be his, don't negotiate.
- protomolecule 2y ago[flagged]
- effie 2y agoUSSR lost many people not only because of the German invasion, but also because they had a terrible leader who co-started WW II and misjudged Hitler. And Europe and America made sure USSR won that war.
- protomolecule 2y agoTell me, how long other countries on the European continent fought Nazis? >Europe and America made sure USSR won that war That's funny, almost all of Europe fought along with Nazi with small exceptions like Greeks. And no one in Europe was in position to "make sure the USSR won the war"
- effie 2y agoEurope was divided, we know that. My people fought both against USSR and together with it against Germans. History and its significance can't be explained in single historical essay, and it certainly should not be misused to advance one's poor argument.
- protomolecule 2y ago[flagged]
- effie 2y agoAlright, U.S. and U.K. made sure, and many in Europe helped.
- protomolecule 2y ago"U.S. and U.K. made sure" Seriously? 'Helped a little bit' are the right words. And helped only out self-preservation fearing what would happen to them if the USSR loses and its resources become available to Nazis.
- hollerith 2y agoMy impression is that they helped a lot: they supplied the USSR with trucks, jeeps, food, clothing, experts in industrial engineering, etc; their ships endured attacks by the German navy to deliver this aid to Soviet ports; their bombing campaigns had the opposite effect on Germany, i.e., to make manufactured goods and things like refined petroleum products a lot more scarce than they would otherwise be.
- protomolecule 2y agoYes, their campaign in Africa too. But compare that to 2/3 (or 4/5 depending on the source) [0] of total Nazi casualties that happened on the Eastern front and now it's not so much. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_casualties_in_World_War_II#OKW_war_diary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_casualties_in_World_War...
- hollerith 2y agoThe assertion this thread is talking about is, "Europe and America made sure USSR won that war". How many casualties Europe and America took in the course of doing so is a separate question. The US and Britain had competent leaders and an advantageous strategic position, so they were able to make sure the USSR won the war at a cost of relatively few US and British casualties.
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- mopsi 2y ago> The last time the USSR lost 26 million people because of European invasion. No - it lost them because it allied with Hitler in destroying Europe as it existed then. From the Winter War against Finland, to invading Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, to invading Poland with Hitler and jointly holding a victory parade as the rest of Europe watched in horror. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Soviet_military_parade_in_Brest-Litovsk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Soviet_military...