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If the EU is so hostile as you claim, why did France, Italy, and Sweden all collaborate with China on this mission to the moon?

• micromacrofoot 2y ago
  government agencies sometimes have some leeway to cooperate despite broader government policies, especially in science - the ISS did this too
• bilbo0s 2y ago
  It'd be nice if we could get all three of you to stop with the propaganda. This is a step forward for mankind. Jeez, this is why we can't have nice things.
  • Dalewyn 2y ago
    Parent commenter isn't wrong, though. China's only definitive enemies are the US (at risk of their throne being usurped) and India (they've been waging border skirmishes for decades, long before Xi came to power). As for the rest: * The EU plays a two-faced game, antagonizing China to please the US while cooperating with China for benefits. * Japan and South Korea must respect the fact China is their regional dominant power, not the US nor themselves. Both historically and again in modern times as China (re)gains power. * Southeast Asia (Vietnam, Phillipines, et al.) and Oceania (Australia, New Zealand) antagonize or cooperate with China depending on the political winds of a given year.
    • jonnybgood 2y ago
      Interesting word usage: other countries antagonize China but no mention of China antagonizing anyone. China is helping Russia fund their war in Ukraine. The EU cares a lot about that. China has no regional dominance by the very fact Taiwan is still not part of China. What’s holding them back? The US. If China had regional dominance, the US would not be an issue. It’s important to not ignore what China is doing in the South China Sea. It’s not a “political wind” when China is attempting to redefine another country’s maritime borders and the Philippine president mentioning acts of war being committed by China.
      • Dalewyn 2y ago
        >no mention of China antagonizing anyone. That's because the claim was "who are China's enemies". Anyone can decide to be China's enemy (or not) for any reason, including regardless of whether China antagonizes them. The EU component of NATO is a great example, the US antagonizes them very often and yet they remain friends with the US. Another example is Russia; Russia hates dealing with China, including for reasons such as stealing of technology, but remains friendly for practical reasons. China antagonizes other countries a great deal, particularly its neighbours, but that is tangent to who are its enemies. >China has no regional dominance by the very fact Taiwan is still not part of China. What’s holding them back? The US. If China had regional dominance, the US would not be an issue. And that situation might change this century if current trends continue, the US is losing power (in all senses, military and otherwise) and China gaining. Even today Japan and South Korea aren't just flipping China off, holding talks and building up their militaries, because they understand the US can't protect them perfectly from the dominant power of the region. >It’s important to not ignore what China is doing in the South China Sea. It’s not a “political wind” when China is attempting to redefine another country’s maritime borders and the Philippine president mentioning acts of war being committed by China. The previous Phillipine government was friendly to China, in no small part also to the US at the time pushing the Phillipines away. The situation there will change according to the way the political winds blow.
    • JumpCrisscross 2y ago
      > EU plays a two-faced game, antagonizing China to please the US while cooperating with China for benefits America is China’s largest net importer [1], tied with the EU as a whole for total exports. Everyone besides Xi is trying to play for long-term gains. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_largest_trading_partners_of_China https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_largest_trading_...
• skhunted 2y ago
  The U.S. still cooperates with Russia on certain matters despite the countries being enemies.