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2 days ago I ordered online, tipped and paid online. When I arrived I had to sign a receipt that had a line labeled Additional Tip. The system knew I had tipped

2 days ago I ordered online, tipped and paid online. When I arrived I had to sign a receipt that had a line labeled Additional Tip. The system knew I had tipped but wanted to try squeeze me again!

eddd-ddde 2y ago
Tipping _before_ receiving the service is beyond insane. How do you know how much to tip if there's nothing to evaluate yet?
- bitshiftfaced 2y ago
  I think it's permissable in cases where you'd normally pay before the service and it's a type of service that is a low-dollar amount and something you'd do frequently instead of a one-off. An example would be a sandwich shop you go to every week. The reasoning would be that since it's cheap and frequent, those receiving the tip have an incentive today to deliver good service because they'd like you to continue tipping in the future.
  - adamomada 2y ago
    Otoh I can’t think of one other scenario where you would tip before you receive the goods/services. Is it even a tip?
    - demosthanos 2y ago
      It's not a tip, it's a bribe. You can tell people perceive it as a bribe because they speculate about what would happen if you don't 'tip'. In the most tame speculation you get people like the parent who expect they'll get better service for tipping ahead (implicitly, you'll get worse service if you don't). On the other extreme are fears about employees doing something awful to your food. Neither tipping or bribing is healthy because both are built on a social contract that can be voided by one party without much consequence—the only difference is which party is in a position to void the contract after reaping the benefits.
kazinator 2y ago
Since you are ordering online, you should tip the delivery person. Oh wait, that's you in this case!
orev 2y ago
I think you’re overestimating the smarts of these systems. They print out a common template for the receipt. It has no idea that you tipped already and the tip line is just part of the template.

2 days ago I ordered online, tipped and paid online. When I arrived I had to sign a receipt that had a line labeled Additional Tip. The system knew I had tipped but wanted to try squeeze me again!

eddd-ddde 2y ago

Tipping _before_ receiving the service is beyond insane. How do you know how much to tip if there's nothing to evaluate yet?

bitshiftfaced 2y ago
I think it's permissable in cases where you'd normally pay before the service and it's a type of service that is a low-dollar amount and something you'd do frequently instead of a one-off. An example would be a sandwich shop you go to every week. The reasoning would be that since it's cheap and frequent, those receiving the tip have an incentive today to deliver good service because they'd like you to continue tipping in the future.
- adamomada 2y ago
  Otoh I can’t think of one other scenario where you would tip before you receive the goods/services. Is it even a tip?
  - demosthanos 2y ago
    It's not a tip, it's a bribe. You can tell people perceive it as a bribe because they speculate about what would happen if you don't 'tip'. In the most tame speculation you get people like the parent who expect they'll get better service for tipping ahead (implicitly, you'll get worse service if you don't). On the other extreme are fears about employees doing something awful to your food. Neither tipping or bribing is healthy because both are built on a social contract that can be voided by one party without much consequence—the only difference is which party is in a position to void the contract after reaping the benefits.

kazinator 2y ago

Since you are ordering online, you should tip the delivery person. Oh wait, that's you in this case!

orev 2y ago

I think you’re overestimating the smarts of these systems. They print out a common template for the receipt. It has no idea that you tipped already and the tip line is just part of the template.