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Yes, agreed. But he could have done a better job outlining and explaining the valleys to people first so they would be in a position to appreciate the mountain

Yes, agreed. But he could have done a better job outlining and explaining the valleys to people first so they would be in a position to appreciate the mountain passes! Luckily, credit in academia tends to reward such people better than the commercial market, even if it ends up happening long after death. Look at Galois for example.

082349872349872 2y ago
True. Even were it to have been making a virtue of necessity, he did note "some day these ideas, even if in an altered form, will reappear and with the passage of time will participate in a lively intellectual exchange. For truth ... remains even if the garments in which feeble men clothe it fall into dust."
- vinnyvichy 2y ago
  Thanks! Probably approximately no citation needed.
  - vinnyvichy 2y ago
    Since you are possibly not terrible at unearthing obscure but Critical rocksnacks, exactly why, Archangelsk Governorate? I mean, if besides that there it being harder to tell noon from midnight, e.g. neighboring Finnics having obnoxiously dissimilar mythology ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Midday https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Midday
  - jasomill 2y ago
    It's from the forward to Grassmann's 1962 Ausdehnungslehre[1]: einst dieſe Ideen, wenn auch in veränderter Form, neu erstehen und mit der Zeitentwickelung in lebendige Wechſelwirkung treten werden. Denn die Wahrheit … bleibt bestehen, wenn auch das Gewand, in welches schwache Menschen ſie kleiden, in Staub zerfälit. The translation is from Kannenberg, Extension Theory, AMS, 2000[2]. [1] https://archive.org/details/dieausdehnungsl05grasgoog/page/n11/mode/2up https://archive.org/details/dieausdehnungsl05grasgoog/page/n... [2] https://www.ams.org/bookstore/pspdf/hmath-19-prev.pdf#page=11 https://www.ams.org/bookstore/pspdf/hmath-19-prev.pdf#page=1...
    - vinnyvichy 2y ago
      Double thanks! (Always glad to see the German taking "Elizabethan" s-f glyph pair to its ambiguous conclusion.) My very earliest exposure to the Ausdehnungslehre was in Sternberg+Bamberg. Until coming across Penrose diagrams, this book staved off the disgust I felt for tensor calculus (as used by physicists). http://ndl.ethernet.edu.et/bitstream/123456789/33770/1/108.pdf.pdf http://ndl.ethernet.edu.et/bitstream/123456789/33770/1/108.p... Mainly shocked by the compression of Maxwell's equations to a single line. Otherwise.. that was.. (regrettably cryptic) a reference to the eerily resonant Kolmogorov option, roughly motivated by Hilbert's slogan "truth does not need martyrs". https://scottaaronson.blog/?p=3376 https://scottaaronson.blog/?p=3376 More precisely, I am sympathetic to the idea that the path that Grassmann took to release his discoveries into the world was actually close to the optimal one. Other paths to consider are thus Grothendieck's,Kaczynski's, Galois' (generalizing to purely social bits, even Nash's) Two-sided intellectual exchange with a finished work across spacetime, that's also something.
      - 082349872349872 2y ago
        (was Galois the co-Kaczynski?) If we want to figure out the optimal path to release discoveries, what happens if we set the action to zero?
- eigenvalue 2y ago
  Yeah, his ultimate confidence in the merit of his ideas is pretty inspiring, even if he never got to see it happen in his own lifetime.
  - 082349872349872 2y ago
    Since the remainder of the thread has been infested by "noonday demons", there's a nice line by a singer-songwriter about a SF novel in the Noon Universe[0]: "of course, freedom and brotherhood[1] will come / But it will happen without us."[2] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noon_Universe#Description https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noon_Universe#Description [1] aka « liberté et fraternité ». A cynic would say the Arkanarians already have « égalité », in that they're all stuck on a planet cycling endlessly between mere anti-intellectualism and outright theocracy. [2] Конечно, свобода и братство наступят / Но это случится без нас (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufbCnjBYDbI&t=5134s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufbCnjBYDbI&t=5134s)
vinnyvichy 2y ago
HMM
- 082349872349872 2y ago
  For Aaronson's question, I'd suggest that Prof. Dr. Marcus Hutter is far more likely to have an answer than I am to guess one. (or Schmidhuber!) I'm far more into semigroups than Solomonoff Induction these days... As to inflections, there's a fan theory that different Pynchon titles reflect different conic sections: https://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=7479 https://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=7479
  - vinnyvichy 2y ago
    Ah you mean Schmidhuber's speed prior: https://people.idsia.ch/~juergen/speedprior.html https://people.idsia.ch/~juergen/speedprior.html I was more interested in pointing to you the measly followups to Aaronson's question, which consists solely of forays into nonlinear quantum mechanics & superluminal neutrinos. https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/blog/2011/09/24/can-neutrinos-kill-their-own-grandfathers/ https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/blog/2011/09/24/can-neu...

082349872349872 2y ago

True. Even were it to have been making a virtue of necessity, he did note "some day these ideas, even if in an altered form, will reappear and with the passage of time will participate in a lively intellectual exchange. For truth ... remains even if the garments in which feeble men clothe it fall into dust."

vinnyvichy 2y ago
Thanks! Probably approximately no citation needed.
- vinnyvichy 2y ago
  Since you are possibly not terrible at unearthing obscure but Critical rocksnacks, exactly why, Archangelsk Governorate? I mean, if besides that there it being harder to tell noon from midnight, e.g. neighboring Finnics having obnoxiously dissimilar mythology ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Midday https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Midday
- jasomill 2y ago
  It's from the forward to Grassmann's 1962 Ausdehnungslehre[1]: einst dieſe Ideen, wenn auch in veränderter Form, neu erstehen und mit der Zeitentwickelung in lebendige Wechſelwirkung treten werden. Denn die Wahrheit … bleibt bestehen, wenn auch das Gewand, in welches schwache Menschen ſie kleiden, in Staub zerfälit. The translation is from Kannenberg, Extension Theory, AMS, 2000[2]. [1] https://archive.org/details/dieausdehnungsl05grasgoog/page/n11/mode/2up https://archive.org/details/dieausdehnungsl05grasgoog/page/n... [2] https://www.ams.org/bookstore/pspdf/hmath-19-prev.pdf#page=11 https://www.ams.org/bookstore/pspdf/hmath-19-prev.pdf#page=1...
  - vinnyvichy 2y ago
    Double thanks! (Always glad to see the German taking "Elizabethan" s-f glyph pair to its ambiguous conclusion.) My very earliest exposure to the Ausdehnungslehre was in Sternberg+Bamberg. Until coming across Penrose diagrams, this book staved off the disgust I felt for tensor calculus (as used by physicists). http://ndl.ethernet.edu.et/bitstream/123456789/33770/1/108.pdf.pdf http://ndl.ethernet.edu.et/bitstream/123456789/33770/1/108.p... Mainly shocked by the compression of Maxwell's equations to a single line. Otherwise.. that was.. (regrettably cryptic) a reference to the eerily resonant Kolmogorov option, roughly motivated by Hilbert's slogan "truth does not need martyrs". https://scottaaronson.blog/?p=3376 https://scottaaronson.blog/?p=3376 More precisely, I am sympathetic to the idea that the path that Grassmann took to release his discoveries into the world was actually close to the optimal one. Other paths to consider are thus Grothendieck's,Kaczynski's, Galois' (generalizing to purely social bits, even Nash's) Two-sided intellectual exchange with a finished work across spacetime, that's also something.
    - 082349872349872 2y ago
      (was Galois the co-Kaczynski?) If we want to figure out the optimal path to release discoveries, what happens if we set the action to zero?
eigenvalue 2y ago
Yeah, his ultimate confidence in the merit of his ideas is pretty inspiring, even if he never got to see it happen in his own lifetime.
- 082349872349872 2y ago
  Since the remainder of the thread has been infested by "noonday demons", there's a nice line by a singer-songwriter about a SF novel in the Noon Universe[0]: "of course, freedom and brotherhood[1] will come / But it will happen without us."[2] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noon_Universe#Description https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noon_Universe#Description [1] aka « liberté et fraternité ». A cynic would say the Arkanarians already have « égalité », in that they're all stuck on a planet cycling endlessly between mere anti-intellectualism and outright theocracy. [2] Конечно, свобода и братство наступят / Но это случится без нас (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufbCnjBYDbI&t=5134s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufbCnjBYDbI&t=5134s)

vinnyvichy 2y ago

HMM

082349872349872 2y ago
For Aaronson's question, I'd suggest that Prof. Dr. Marcus Hutter is far more likely to have an answer than I am to guess one. (or Schmidhuber!) I'm far more into semigroups than Solomonoff Induction these days... As to inflections, there's a fan theory that different Pynchon titles reflect different conic sections: https://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=7479 https://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=7479
- vinnyvichy 2y ago
  Ah you mean Schmidhuber's speed prior: https://people.idsia.ch/~juergen/speedprior.html https://people.idsia.ch/~juergen/speedprior.html I was more interested in pointing to you the measly followups to Aaronson's question, which consists solely of forays into nonlinear quantum mechanics & superluminal neutrinos. https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/blog/2011/09/24/can-neutrinos-kill-their-own-grandfathers/ https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/blog/2011/09/24/can-neu...