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The problem is all the shadiness and sloppiness. Hopium of Optimus isn’t worth $50B. Maybe $2B. And even $50B may not be enough to compete with Sammy and cha

• ryzvonusef 2y ago
  The share price rose as per the defined metrics, and with that shareholder wealth. It's up to the market and their stupid analysts to judge how much they value all the various hopiums (autopilo/FSD, 4680, large castings, Optimus, etc etc) Shareholders agreed to that, and he met those standards. If you didn't like the metrics, you should voted against it in 2018, and upon failure, sold the shares. But if you kept the shares, and enjoyed the multiple share prices increases, then it meant you agreed. Then after paying, by all means fire him. His current performance is lacking, after all. But if the Shareholders and Board vote to keep him, and yet vote not to pay him, then it's absurd.
  • Marsymars 2y ago
    > Shareholders agreed to that, and he met those standards. If you didn't like the metrics, you should voted against it in 2018, and upon failure, sold the shares. I'm in favour of lower executive compensation in all publicly traded companies I hold (which, due to ETFs, is nearly every publicly traded company), I can't very well stop holding stock of every company that doesn't decrease executive compensation.