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The problem is that you're talking of massively freeloading social an environmental costs of humongous size onto other people and places. Sure, "flatpack sawdus

by wazoox 2y ago

The problem is that you're talking of massively freeloading social an environmental costs of humongous size onto other people and places. Sure, "flatpack sawdust and glue" furniture made by slave labour while destroying rainforests and dumping toxic waste is cheap for you and right now... But that can't last and won't last.

crazygringo 2y ago
Sofa manufacture is not what's destroying rainforests or dumping toxic waste. And "flatpack sawdust" is better for the environment, actually -- where do you think all those leftover wood scraps would be going if they weren't mixed with glue and used productively? If you want to be using solid pieces of wood in everything, that's a lot more trees you're going to have to cut down.
- wazoox 2y ago
  My late grandmother had some pieces of furniture that were between 300 and 400 year old. We need less stuff and particularly less new stuff. A 400 year-old wardrobe ("armoire normande") is exactly as good as any new one to store your clothes, has much more character, and may still be just as good in the centuries to come.
  - crazygringo 2y ago
    That's wonderful if you only move a few times in your whole life, and always have space in your bedroom for a wardrobe, and like the style. It's impossible if you move apartments every couple/few years, the bedrooms come with closets and there's no good place to put the wardrobe and you don't need it anyways because you have closets, and sure it has "character" but it looks completely out of place because it's the wrong character. If you want to preserve antique furniture and are able to, then more power to you. There are lots of antique furniture enthusiasts. But I don't want an antique wardrobe any more than I want to wear a high-collared four-button men's sack suit from 1885.

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The problem is that you're talking of massively freeloading social an environmental costs of humongous size onto other people and places. Sure, "flatpack sawdus

by wazoox 2y ago

crazygringo 2y ago
Sofa manufacture is not what's destroying rainforests or dumping toxic waste. And "flatpack sawdust" is better for the environment, actually -- where do you think all those leftover wood scraps would be going if they weren't mixed with glue and used productively? If you want to be using solid pieces of wood in everything, that's a lot more trees you're going to have to cut down.
- wazoox 2y ago
  My late grandmother had some pieces of furniture that were between 300 and 400 year old. We need less stuff and particularly less new stuff. A 400 year-old wardrobe ("armoire normande") is exactly as good as any new one to store your clothes, has much more character, and may still be just as good in the centuries to come.
  - crazygringo 2y ago
    That's wonderful if you only move a few times in your whole life, and always have space in your bedroom for a wardrobe, and like the style. It's impossible if you move apartments every couple/few years, the bedrooms come with closets and there's no good place to put the wardrobe and you don't need it anyways because you have closets, and sure it has "character" but it looks completely out of place because it's the wrong character. If you want to preserve antique furniture and are able to, then more power to you. There are lots of antique furniture enthusiasts. But I don't want an antique wardrobe any more than I want to wear a high-collared four-button men's sack suit from 1885.