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I've gotten this message and it kind of illustrates one of the many aspect as to why web-browser apps are so terrible, that the storage is disconnected from the
by tjoff 2y ago
I've gotten this message and it kind of illustrates one of the many aspect as to why web-browser apps are so terrible, that the storage is disconnected from the app and the connection is unreliable (and in most cases (if not on mobile) it is just that the server is unreliable, because it has to handle 10 million other connections).
> Make sure you copy the contents of the message before you discard if you want to use them later.
Like, really? Is that the best you can do? You rely on a human to copy-paste text because you can not be bothered to create it yourself?
In theory, yes, that might be the best they can do because they can't connect to the server - in my case however, that was not the case. Outlook worked fine and I got new notifications, but I had to manually preserve the content.
It's been 20 years since gmail "disrupted" webmail, yet it still sucks. At best they only give the illusion of search, because they don't have the resources to do it properly. How people can stand it is beyond me.
- michaelmior 2y agoThe problems you cite with Web apps are not unique to the Web, but to client-server apps in general.
- tjoff 2y agoIt is much worse than that because a proper client can have storage as well. The key difference is that the browser is not a proper client but a general purpose interpreter and that webb applications don't have a choice no matter how bad of a fit it is.
- phantomathkg 2y agoWeb app have storage. It is only because the app you use doesn’t use it properly. Even gmail has offline mode.
- tjoff 2y agoBut it can't trust the storage. Maybe you are in incognito. Maybe you are not using your own computer etc. Not particularly likely it will ever sync again.
- necovek 2y agoYou are setting different goals: a client (non-web) app running on a different computer would not have access to local storage for another computer where that same app was running locally. FWIW, even on the same computer, you can frequently run the same client using a different profile, user account or similar, and it wouldn't have access to another instance of that same client. Browser does have local storage and you can assume it keeps the local storage. The main difference is that browsers tend to be "OSes" for multiple apps.
- tjoff 2y agoYou wouldn't install and configure an app on a different machine for quick instance. Which you do for a webpage. Hence outlook can't assume that the message can be recovered because it can't assume it will ever see that local storage again. A webapp has it's place. It is an inferior option but it is convenient for when you lack access to a proper client, doesn't make sense for them to target the same goals.
- necovek 2y agoI am surprised you still insist on the assymetry: there is nothing guaranteeing you'd ever start up that desktop client again. While it is easier to set up a "transient" web app client, it's also easier to get up a "permanent" web app client, and many people do use the very same computer and browser for accessing a web app just the same.