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I use iCloud Keychain for passwords. It's a trade-off between security and convenience. Passwords aren't as critical in my opinion, because I can always change

I use iCloud Keychain for passwords. It's a trade-off between security and convenience. Passwords aren't as critical in my opinion, because I can always change them. Sure, it would suck if someone broke into my hosting account or my bank account, but I could probably fix it somehow. I was more thinking about secrets that I don't want people to find out, because there is no way to make people forget something they learned about me that I wanted to hide.

illiac786 2y ago
Some secrets are worthless without communications. Think of the poor extortionists. They took a compromising pictures, they would have to sent it via mail without proper encryption. How retrograde. I’m joking around but I did get your point. I just think secrets cannot be categorised simply in “stuff I don’t want anyone ever to learn about” (why would someone use signal for that though) and “stuff I don’t care if anyone learns about”. 99% of the information I send over signal is actually neither, it’s in-between. I don’t want the whole world to see pictures and names of my family. I do want other members of my family to have them. Hence I use Signal for this, because I trust them most (or I distrust them least, depending on the point of view). It’s all about trade-offs, as you said.
- newaccount74 2y ago
  I agree. What I was trying to say was that encryption was not the most important part for me. Facebook or Twitter DMs would be secure enough for family photos in my opinion, if they didn't use invasive ad tracking. The fact that Signal is independent is why I use it, not because of superior encryption.
  - illiac786 2y ago
    Being independent means little to me. FBI can swoop in and take all the drives based on some vague suspicions. They can be hacked. They could decide to start selling my data tomorrow. End it end encryption make me worry less about this. I’m not a very trustful person simply put. But I agree that everyone need to evaluate their convenience vs. risk ratio individually. I use VPNs, I wouldn’t dare to ask my family to do the same, it’s highly inconvenient.

illiac786 2y ago

Some secrets are worthless without communications. Think of the poor extortionists. They took a compromising pictures, they would have to sent it via mail without proper encryption. How retrograde. I’m joking around but I did get your point. I just think secrets cannot be categorised simply in “stuff I don’t want anyone ever to learn about” (why would someone use signal for that though) and “stuff I don’t care if anyone learns about”. 99% of the information I send over signal is actually neither, it’s in-between. I don’t want the whole world to see pictures and names of my family. I do want other members of my family to have them. Hence I use Signal for this, because I trust them most (or I distrust them least, depending on the point of view). It’s all about trade-offs, as you said.

newaccount74 2y ago
I agree. What I was trying to say was that encryption was not the most important part for me. Facebook or Twitter DMs would be secure enough for family photos in my opinion, if they didn't use invasive ad tracking. The fact that Signal is independent is why I use it, not because of superior encryption.
- illiac786 2y ago
  Being independent means little to me. FBI can swoop in and take all the drives based on some vague suspicions. They can be hacked. They could decide to start selling my data tomorrow. End it end encryption make me worry less about this. I’m not a very trustful person simply put. But I agree that everyone need to evaluate their convenience vs. risk ratio individually. I use VPNs, I wouldn’t dare to ask my family to do the same, it’s highly inconvenient.