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A small side benefit to tipping... During early Covid, when I'd get grocery delivery from a company that happened to be known for often treating employees badl

by neilv 2y ago

A small side benefit to tipping... During early Covid, when I'd get grocery delivery from a company that happened to be known for often treating employees badly, I'd tip much more than the default. Because they deserved it and more. But a side benefit was the amusement of imagining the CEO getting pissed off that a worker was getting paid more than the minimum that the company had calculated it could get away with. (Well, it turns out the company was stealing tips, so maybe the CEO had the last laugh, but I tried.)

from-nibly 2y ago
And thats always the case. If you got enough tips to make a wage that you want and got no salary youd still do it. What an employer pays an employee is just enough to keep them doing the job. It doesn't matter if the money comes from tips or wage it's all the same. Which means the company will be the one who benefits from a tip every time it's money they don't have to pay the employee no matter what.
- neilv 2y ago
  Fortunately, the market isn't perfectly efficient, and there are applicable laws.
oliwarner 2y ago
That's some bad activism. If you think a company is mistreating their employees, don't use that company. At all. The only tip you should be giving employees is to find a better job. No CEO is getting bent because somebody else is paying their employees' wages. If anything, you've enabled them to continue treating workers poorly for longer.
- neilv 2y ago
  Point taken about boycotting bad companies, but sometimes it's harder than other times. The side benefit of tipping well was amusement from imagining the CEO (of a savagely metrics-driven, stack-ranking, generally jerky) company being so miserably ruthless that they're demanding reports on tipping, and getting angry when there's employees/contractors who they can't squeeze any harder. Not that they're actually getting angry.

by neilv 2y ago

from-nibly 2y ago

And thats always the case. If you got enough tips to make a wage that you want and got no salary youd still do it. What an employer pays an employee is just enough to keep them doing the job. It doesn't matter if the money comes from tips or wage it's all the same. Which means the company will be the one who benefits from a tip every time it's money they don't have to pay the employee no matter what.

neilv 2y ago
Fortunately, the market isn't perfectly efficient, and there are applicable laws.

oliwarner 2y ago

That's some bad activism. If you think a company is mistreating their employees, don't use that company. At all. The only tip you should be giving employees is to find a better job. No CEO is getting bent because somebody else is paying their employees' wages. If anything, you've enabled them to continue treating workers poorly for longer.

neilv 2y ago
Point taken about boycotting bad companies, but sometimes it's harder than other times. The side benefit of tipping well was amusement from imagining the CEO (of a savagely metrics-driven, stack-ranking, generally jerky) company being so miserably ruthless that they're demanding reports on tipping, and getting angry when there's employees/contractors who they can't squeeze any harder. Not that they're actually getting angry.