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> Get takeout. No reasonable person expects you to tip your restaurant worker when you get takeout. So one way to avoid leaving a gratuity is to get your next r
by demosthanos 2y ago
> Get takeout. No reasonable person expects you to tip your restaurant worker when you get takeout. So one way to avoid leaving a gratuity is to get your next restaurant meal to go.
This is a way to avoid tipping if and only if you're comfortable manually selecting "no tip". It doesn't matter if you're ordering online or at the counter, you will be prompted for a tip these days when ordering takeout, often with some obscene percentage preselected that you have to opt out of.
As multiple people noted in the article, this tendency has done more to exhaust people of tipping than anything else. A tip jar is nonconfrontational and just gives an easy way to give extra if you want to. But these terminals are turning tipping into something that is actively stressful for a lot of people.
The only bright side I see is that by completely exhausting everyone they might be responsible for ending the practice everywhere and forcing restaurants to pay a wage.
- nickthegreek 2y ago2 days ago I ordered online, tipped and paid online. When I arrived I had to sign a receipt that had a line labeled Additional Tip. The system knew I had tipped but wanted to try squeeze me again!
- eddd-ddde 2y agoTipping _before_ receiving the service is beyond insane. How do you know how much to tip if there's nothing to evaluate yet?
- bitshiftfaced 2y agoI think it's permissable in cases where you'd normally pay before the service and it's a type of service that is a low-dollar amount and something you'd do frequently instead of a one-off. An example would be a sandwich shop you go to every week. The reasoning would be that since it's cheap and frequent, those receiving the tip have an incentive today to deliver good service because they'd like you to continue tipping in the future.
- adamomada 2y agoOtoh I can’t think of one other scenario where you would tip before you receive the goods/services. Is it even a tip?
- demosthanos 2y agoIt's not a tip, it's a bribe. You can tell people perceive it as a bribe because they speculate about what would happen if you don't 'tip'. In the most tame speculation you get people like the parent who expect they'll get better service for tipping ahead (implicitly, you'll get worse service if you don't). On the other extreme are fears about employees doing something awful to your food. Neither tipping or bribing is healthy because both are built on a social contract that can be voided by one party without much consequence—the only difference is which party is in a position to void the contract after reaping the benefits.
- kazinator 2y agoSince you are ordering online, you should tip the delivery person. Oh wait, that's you in this case!
- orev 2y agoI think you’re overestimating the smarts of these systems. They print out a common template for the receipt. It has no idea that you tipped already and the tip line is just part of the template.
- adamomada 2y agoWhat ever happened to the cash discount for pickup orders? It was like a negative tip and everyone was happy (restauranteur voided the sale and made more money as well)