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I don't want to live in a city. It's noisy, polluted, crowded and I really like my small countryside house with plenty of land around it. Lived in a city for 20

I don't want to live in a city. It's noisy, polluted, crowded and I really like my small countryside house with plenty of land around it. Lived in a city for 20 years, got fed up with it, despite all of the alleged 'advantages' it offers. I guess I don't deserve decent infrastructure in your world view?

stouset 2y ago
If you’re willing to split the cost with ten people rather than ten thousand, have at.
nox101 2y ago
No, you don’t. plain and simple. Tons of people living together share the costs. the few in the suburbs need to pay for their own infra. They’re not now. The cities are subsidizing the suburbs. that’s not fair. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7Nw6qyyrTeI https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7Nw6qyyrTeI
- Dalewyn 2y ago
  Your sentiment can be summarized as "Fuck you, I got mine." Hardly convincing. As an aside, the countryside can survive without cities but cities cannot survive without the countryside. Perhaps consider your dependences before brazenly brushing them off.
  - Larrikin 2y ago
    There's absolutely no way farmers can be more than subsistence farmers without selling to the masses in the city. Country farmers like to pretend they enjoy living off the land but outside of what they actually sell to make money, they would be losing same amenities as the city that they are not willing to give up.
  - nox101 2y ago
    no, my sentiment is you’re stealing from me and not even aware of it. you’re taking more than your portion. Cities need farms (a few people and a few roads) they don’t need suburbs (people wasting resources, living large, and stealing tax resources from the cities to subsidize their lifestyle)
- tonynator 2y ago
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  - nerb 2y ago
    dude... where do the imports of petroleum and fixed nitrogen which are critical for Ag come from? hint: look at the US ports and see what surrounds them. farming and suburbia are subsidized out the wazoo. and a lot of Ag doesn't go to feed people... you're bark is much, much worst than your bite.
    - tonynator 2y ago
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  - lostdog 2y ago
    The food is not only bought with money, but also subsidized. With tax dollars from cities.
- foobazgt 2y ago
  I've watched that video and seen it quoted a fair number of times, but I don't see how it jives with the reality of tax collection and spending - at least in my area of residence (ATL). I'd love some hard data on how the city is subsidizing the suburbs. Instead, the recent trend has been that wealthy areas near downtown (e.g. Buckhead) have been trying to incorporate so that they're no longer subsidizing the rest of the city.
bluejekyll 2y ago
Most of the noise and pollution in cities comes from cars.
anon291 2y ago
I think it's great to live in the country but you should not expect the government to bail you out. That's part of the deal. I myself have thought about buying country property, but as a responsible property owner, I bear the cost for adding infrastructure, and, in return, I get the sole enjoyment. That's the deal. If you want the infrastructure built for you then you need to accept public use of it. That means the government gets to decide how large that public is too.
throwaway2037 2y ago
> I guess I don't deserve decent infrastructure in your world view? Do you pay enough taxes to demand it? Probably not.
defrost 2y ago
You can have whatever local infrastructure yourself and your community can afford. You can have whatever connection to the rest of your state your community and the state can afford and decide upon. FWiW I've very much been there, I grew up in the most remote corner of a state 3x larger than Texas with a population (then) of under 1 million. We graded our own airstrip, 150 km of road, maintained our own vehicles and aircraft, fed and managed our horses and camels, loaded and unloaded ships off the mud flats at low tide.

stouset 2y ago

If you’re willing to split the cost with ten people rather than ten thousand, have at.

nox101 2y ago

No, you don’t. plain and simple. Tons of people living together share the costs. the few in the suburbs need to pay for their own infra. They’re not now. The cities are subsidizing the suburbs. that’s not fair. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7Nw6qyyrTeI https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7Nw6qyyrTeI

Dalewyn 2y ago
Your sentiment can be summarized as "Fuck you, I got mine." Hardly convincing. As an aside, the countryside can survive without cities but cities cannot survive without the countryside. Perhaps consider your dependences before brazenly brushing them off.
- Larrikin 2y ago
  There's absolutely no way farmers can be more than subsistence farmers without selling to the masses in the city. Country farmers like to pretend they enjoy living off the land but outside of what they actually sell to make money, they would be losing same amenities as the city that they are not willing to give up.
- nox101 2y ago
  no, my sentiment is you’re stealing from me and not even aware of it. you’re taking more than your portion. Cities need farms (a few people and a few roads) they don’t need suburbs (people wasting resources, living large, and stealing tax resources from the cities to subsidize their lifestyle)
tonynator 2y ago
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- nerb 2y ago
  dude... where do the imports of petroleum and fixed nitrogen which are critical for Ag come from? hint: look at the US ports and see what surrounds them. farming and suburbia are subsidized out the wazoo. and a lot of Ag doesn't go to feed people... you're bark is much, much worst than your bite.
  - tonynator 2y ago
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- lostdog 2y ago
  The food is not only bought with money, but also subsidized. With tax dollars from cities.
foobazgt 2y ago
I've watched that video and seen it quoted a fair number of times, but I don't see how it jives with the reality of tax collection and spending - at least in my area of residence (ATL). I'd love some hard data on how the city is subsidizing the suburbs. Instead, the recent trend has been that wealthy areas near downtown (e.g. Buckhead) have been trying to incorporate so that they're no longer subsidizing the rest of the city.

bluejekyll 2y ago

Most of the noise and pollution in cities comes from cars.

anon291 2y ago

I think it's great to live in the country but you should not expect the government to bail you out. That's part of the deal. I myself have thought about buying country property, but as a responsible property owner, I bear the cost for adding infrastructure, and, in return, I get the sole enjoyment. That's the deal. If you want the infrastructure built for you then you need to accept public use of it. That means the government gets to decide how large that public is too.

throwaway2037 2y ago

> I guess I don't deserve decent infrastructure in your world view? Do you pay enough taxes to demand it? Probably not.

defrost 2y ago

You can have whatever local infrastructure yourself and your community can afford. You can have whatever connection to the rest of your state your community and the state can afford and decide upon. FWiW I've very much been there, I grew up in the most remote corner of a state 3x larger than Texas with a population (then) of under 1 million. We graded our own airstrip, 150 km of road, maintained our own vehicles and aircraft, fed and managed our horses and camels, loaded and unloaded ships off the mud flats at low tide.