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I know some families that swear by their Healy, a MLM-marketed device that claims it can help ease muscle tension and a whole swath of other health problems, us

by mholt 2y ago

I know some families that swear by their Healy, a MLM-marketed device that claims it can help ease muscle tension and a whole swath of other health problems, using electric diodes or even just resonate frequencies over the air. While I think there's something to it, after seeing the app, though, I question its legitimacy. It claims to scan your biosignals by placing your thumb on the phone screen and it has a progress bar that variably increases at the exact same bezier curve rate every time, and then it computes the optimal vibration program for you. But phones don't have hardware or at least the APIs to do that, I'm pretty sure? But I can't argue that it has seemed to help tame migraines, placebo or not.

ileonichwiesz 2y ago
Lmao a phone definitely can’t scan your “biosignals” through the screen, seems like obvious mumbo jumbo
- voxic11 2y ago
  Yeah its an obvious scam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_Y5kdEpcu4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_Y5kdEpcu4
dtgriscom 2y ago
Placebos work.
ok_dad 2y ago
I guess they have double blind trials to prove that it works? If not, it’s a scam. Not even a chance it’s not a scam at that point. What you describe is a medical device, according to the FDA, so if it actually worked they’d have certain approvals. If it does anything and it’s not classified by the FDA, it’s illegal. — From https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/classify-your-medical-device/how-determine-if-your-product-medical-device https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/classify-your-medical-de... Per Section 201(h)(1) of the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act, a device is: An instrument, apparatus, implement, machine, contrivance, implant, in vitro reagent, or other similar or related article, including a component part, or accessory which is: (A) recognized in the official National Formulary, or the United States Pharmacopoeia, or any supplement to them, (B) intended for use in the diagnosis of disease or other conditions, or in the cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease, in man or other animals, or (C) intended to affect the structure or any function of the body of man or other animals, and which does not achieve its primary intended purposes through chemical action within or on the body of man or other animals and which is not dependent upon being metabolized for the achievement of its primary intended purposes. The term "device" does not include software functions excluded pursuant to section 520(o).
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utensil4778 2y ago
The most you could possibly get out of the screen is maybe contact patch size of the finger, as a proxy for pulse rate. Maybe. It's almost certainly complete bupkis.

by mholt 2y ago

ileonichwiesz 2y ago

Lmao a phone definitely can’t scan your “biosignals” through the screen, seems like obvious mumbo jumbo

voxic11 2y ago
Yeah its an obvious scam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_Y5kdEpcu4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_Y5kdEpcu4

dtgriscom 2y ago

Placebos work.

ok_dad 2y ago

I guess they have double blind trials to prove that it works? If not, it’s a scam. Not even a chance it’s not a scam at that point. What you describe is a medical device, according to the FDA, so if it actually worked they’d have certain approvals. If it does anything and it’s not classified by the FDA, it’s illegal. — From https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/classify-your-medical-device/how-determine-if-your-product-medical-device https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/classify-your-medical-de... Per Section 201(h)(1) of the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act, a device is: An instrument, apparatus, implement, machine, contrivance, implant, in vitro reagent, or other similar or related article, including a component part, or accessory which is: (A) recognized in the official National Formulary, or the United States Pharmacopoeia, or any supplement to them, (B) intended for use in the diagnosis of disease or other conditions, or in the cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease, in man or other animals, or (C) intended to affect the structure or any function of the body of man or other animals, and which does not achieve its primary intended purposes through chemical action within or on the body of man or other animals and which is not dependent upon being metabolized for the achievement of its primary intended purposes. The term "device" does not include software functions excluded pursuant to section 520(o).

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utensil4778 2y ago

The most you could possibly get out of the screen is maybe contact patch size of the finger, as a proxy for pulse rate. Maybe. It's almost certainly complete bupkis.