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You're assuming they could get someone to underwrite them. The underwriters probably looked at the disaster that was the Karma, correctly concluded the company
by KennyBlanken 2y ago
You're assuming they could get someone to underwrite them. The underwriters probably looked at the disaster that was the Karma, correctly concluded the company was a shitshow, and said "nope" or quoted a premium Fisker couldn't afford.
Sounds like Fisker was pinching pennies everywhere they could, so even if they were quoted something they could afford, they probably passed.
Fisker sure fucked the pooch, but even the 'big boys' have royally fucked things up when they really have no excuse given their engineering, design, manufacturing, etc. The Chevy Bolt had tons of problems with its infotainment system, the seats were horrible to sit in, and then the battery defects came to light.
The Ford Mach E is a shitshow in terms of thermal management, overheating at the drop of a hat. The "performance" model is actually slower to accelerate to highway speeds because it overheats faster and throttles back its power.
The BMW i3 was an unreliable lemon that depreciated like a rock once they started coming off lease.
The VW ID3 was full of incredibly shitty UX design decisions and an infotainment system that was so slow it was almost useless - and the system was how you controlled almost everything in the car.
Read forums from when these models came out and you'll often see similar problems to Fisker's. Cars that have a system fail, the dealership struggles to diagnose it because there's poor service training and documentation, and the customer waits for weeks for parts to show up. Software glitches up the ass, etc.
Fisker we can all understand; it's easy to see the problems like terrible leadership and incompetence throughout the org. But at BMW, Ford, GM, VW - it's actually much worse, because on paper they should be the best equipped. They have massive abilities and experience in terms of research, development, design, manufacturing, parts distribution, service, etc - not to mention very deep pockets.
There's really no excuse for the foibles these companies have had, because aside from the drivetrain, everything else can be the same - and the car is massively simpler to boot, with a lower part and system count. There's no exhaust, no emissions control, no fuel, no oil (well, save gear case/diff oil), no hydraulics, cooling needs are much lower, etc.
I think what it came down to is that early EVs are not profitable, so oddly enough, there was probably the same pressure to cut every cost possible, from staffing to component selection to design. Why else, for example, would the ID3 have an infotainment system with a SoC clearly not capable of handling the software it was tasked to run?
- constantcrying 2y ago>Why else, for example, would the ID3 have an infotainment system with a SoC clearly not capable of handling the software it was tasked to run? That definitely wasn't about penny pinching, obviously the increase in quality of a better chip would completely outweigh the costs. Issues like these exist because of a very large and diffuse organization which develops cars over many years. At some early point in time a chip is choosen (by the time the car is built it is already outpaced by cheaper chips) and resources on that chip are allocated to different development groups, which then have to fight one another and themselves to get their software done within the resources allocated them. The problem is that the moment any of the initial assumptions about the engineering are violated, the chip becomes insufficient and UX suffers. At that point in time changing the chip would actually delay when the car can be produced, so the internal politics increases to figure out how to make it work. The ID3 was also especially bad since it was the first car of a new Platform and obviously in the planning of the E/E for that platform the need for processing power for the Infotainment system was severely underestimated. And while that decision certainly concerned money, it definitely wouldn't have been made if the consequences had been visible at that point in time.