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Airbus is their only competitor in the civilian market. The US Government has actively destroyed companies that attempt to compete with Boeing [0]. They’re als

Airbus is their only competitor in the civilian market. The US Government has actively destroyed companies that attempt to compete with Boeing [0]. They’re also one of the top 5 prime contractors in the defense industry. There is no possible way the US lets its sole domestic airplane manufacturer go bust. I would speculate that the government wouldn’t even want to chance a Boeing bankruptcy. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSeries_dumping_petition_by_Boeing https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSeries_dumping_petition_by_... I’m just a dumb guy who works in construction, if I know the above, then the market definitely knows it.

nickff 2y ago
Boeing is not the only US airplane manufacturer, it is the only commercial airplane (airliner) manufacturer.
- quickthrowman 2y ago
  If someone refers to Boeing as the sole domestic airplane manufacturer, I would assume they also know that Cessna exists but are referring to the Boeing/Airbus duopoly.
  - nickff 2y ago
    I’ve never heard anyone else mention Boeing as “the sole domestic airplane manufacturer”, given that Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman are still around. I follow aviation quite closely, and the trade magazines are always quite clear on this sort of thing.
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- eastbound 2y ago
  I would say it’s the international repercussions that put pressure: - Boeing’s home customers don’t really have a choice, - European customers really have an incentive to switch, even possibly Ryanair, since Boeing is a laughing stock and planes-that-are-losing-doors are a meme for internet-oriented people in Europe, - But it also has an impact on diplomacy and on american hegemony when everyone turns away from them for industrial competence. And it’s rather the loss of the leadership of the role of the world’s safety organization of the FAA, when it was only the European safety organization who halted this nonsense.
Matheus28 2y ago
> Airbus is their only competitor in the civilian market. I feel that I’ve started seeing Embraer planes a lot more often over the years. If you’ve flown some regional routes, you most likely flew in one of them at some point
- constantcrying 2y ago
  Embraer competes at the smaller end of the market. E.g. they compete with the A220, but they don't really compete with things like the A320 or the even larger planes from Boeing and Airbus. Mitsubishi also tried to build a plane to compete at the smaller end, the MRJ was cancelled though. Also, yes I flew on an Embraer. It also was the worst plane I was ever on. Everything was cramped and it was notably loud. But not sure that this is true in general.
  - Matheus28 2y ago
    The one thing I like is that I've seen them in 1-2 and 2-2 seating configurations for the entire cabin. It's quite nice. The overhead space is almost negligible though, it doesn't fit a standard carry on.

nickff 2y ago

Boeing is not the only US airplane manufacturer, it is the only commercial airplane (airliner) manufacturer.

quickthrowman 2y ago
If someone refers to Boeing as the sole domestic airplane manufacturer, I would assume they also know that Cessna exists but are referring to the Boeing/Airbus duopoly.
- nickff 2y ago
  I’ve never heard anyone else mention Boeing as “the sole domestic airplane manufacturer”, given that Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman are still around. I follow aviation quite closely, and the trade magazines are always quite clear on this sort of thing.
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eastbound 2y ago
I would say it’s the international repercussions that put pressure: - Boeing’s home customers don’t really have a choice, - European customers really have an incentive to switch, even possibly Ryanair, since Boeing is a laughing stock and planes-that-are-losing-doors are a meme for internet-oriented people in Europe, - But it also has an impact on diplomacy and on american hegemony when everyone turns away from them for industrial competence. And it’s rather the loss of the leadership of the role of the world’s safety organization of the FAA, when it was only the European safety organization who halted this nonsense.

Matheus28 2y ago

> Airbus is their only competitor in the civilian market. I feel that I’ve started seeing Embraer planes a lot more often over the years. If you’ve flown some regional routes, you most likely flew in one of them at some point

constantcrying 2y ago
Embraer competes at the smaller end of the market. E.g. they compete with the A220, but they don't really compete with things like the A320 or the even larger planes from Boeing and Airbus. Mitsubishi also tried to build a plane to compete at the smaller end, the MRJ was cancelled though. Also, yes I flew on an Embraer. It also was the worst plane I was ever on. Everything was cramped and it was notably loud. But not sure that this is true in general.
- Matheus28 2y ago
  The one thing I like is that I've seen them in 1-2 and 2-2 seating configurations for the entire cabin. It's quite nice. The overhead space is almost negligible though, it doesn't fit a standard carry on.