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> GenAI can be great for pop art, but try to create something unique to you or another person, and it will fail miserably. GenAI is just a tool. Creating uniqu

> GenAI can be great for pop art, but try to create something unique to you or another person, and it will fail miserably. GenAI is just a tool. Creating unique art with unique perspectives is going to be more accessible to more people. Not everyone will put the work in, but there's a new opportunity in a world full of opportunity cost.

internet101010 2y ago
Yep. Imagine you are a producer that doesn't sing very well but knows exactly what you want. There are TTS VSTs that allow for custom models. You can change the key, length, modulation, etc. by just dragging the mouse along the word(s) and it integrates into your DAW like any other instrument.
ethbr1 2y ago
I'd make the argument that the nature of tools drives much of mass/low-cost art (that is, the majority). Very few people have the training and complete skill set to fully customize everything. Consequently, the further you get away from "doing the thing" (e.g. playing an instrument) to "operating the tool that does the thing" (e.g. writing music for a player piano), the stronger impression the tool leaves on your work. See also the corralling of c64 demos into hardware limitations. Or early electronic music vs 80s+.
- echelon 2y ago
  The electronic music point is good, but I wouldn't label electronic music as inferior or not art. It's about choosing which parts of your stack are artisanal vs which parts are implemented for you. These choices impact the form factor, but I wouldn't say that they diminish the work itself.
  - ethbr1 2y ago
    Not making a point on superiority-inferiority, but rather novelty-homogeneity. Early electronic music (e.g. musique concrete) was nuts, because they were literally building sound. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=919RleFXcNM https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=919RleFXcNM Once the presets were packaged and productized... you ended up with 808 music. Which wasn't worse, but was objectively less unique.

internet101010 2y ago

Yep. Imagine you are a producer that doesn't sing very well but knows exactly what you want. There are TTS VSTs that allow for custom models. You can change the key, length, modulation, etc. by just dragging the mouse along the word(s) and it integrates into your DAW like any other instrument.

ethbr1 2y ago

I'd make the argument that the nature of tools drives much of mass/low-cost art (that is, the majority). Very few people have the training and complete skill set to fully customize everything. Consequently, the further you get away from "doing the thing" (e.g. playing an instrument) to "operating the tool that does the thing" (e.g. writing music for a player piano), the stronger impression the tool leaves on your work. See also the corralling of c64 demos into hardware limitations. Or early electronic music vs 80s+.

echelon 2y ago
The electronic music point is good, but I wouldn't label electronic music as inferior or not art. It's about choosing which parts of your stack are artisanal vs which parts are implemented for you. These choices impact the form factor, but I wouldn't say that they diminish the work itself.
- ethbr1 2y ago
  Not making a point on superiority-inferiority, but rather novelty-homogeneity. Early electronic music (e.g. musique concrete) was nuts, because they were literally building sound. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=919RleFXcNM https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=919RleFXcNM Once the presets were packaged and productized... you ended up with 808 music. Which wasn't worse, but was objectively less unique.