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I agree with you in principle, since a computer’s a computer, but the Steam Deck is so different and specifically made for gaming that it’s really hard to count

I agree with you in principle, since a computer’s a computer, but the Steam Deck is so different and specifically made for gaming that it’s really hard to count it amongst the Linux fold. We don’t count the Switch owners as computer users of BSD after all. And if you’re trying to make Linux into this paragon against the AI invasion, a portable console connected to the largest gaming store in the world is not a winning move. With how fickle Valve is, they’ll go all in on AI any day now.

talldayo 2y ago
So, evidently you have not used a Steam Deck or appear to be in abject denial of what it is. > the Steam Deck is so different and specifically made for gaming that it’s really hard to count it amongst the Linux fold. That's funny, it has a KDE desktop and a graphical installer for Linux packages. It looks no different from my Linux desktop at home. > We don’t count the Switch owners as computer users of BSD after all. You very well could: https://switchroot.org/ https://switchroot.org/ The default Switch OS is more importantly based on Android though. > a portable console connected to the largest gaming store in the world is not a winning move. You're damn right. That's why Valve specifically designed the Steam Deck so it's not connected to them for essential services. You can install Windows on it, put another Linux distro over the base install, or dual boot with whatever ungodly combination you prefer. I don't know who led you onto this, but using Valve-provided software is entirely optional for Steam Deck owners. > With how fickle Valve is, they’ll go all in on AI any day now. Evidently you don't use Steam very much, either. Steam, the app, hasn't received a serious "new feature" since they spruced up the in-game chat app during the pandemic. I am about as worried of Valve going all-in on AI as I am worried of Joe Biden adopting serious socialist reform into his policy. It's not going to happen, Jack.
- philistine 2y ago
  The presence of these affordances (allowing easy access to a Linux desktop, the ability to install Windows) is there to placate people like you. The vast majority of Steam Deck users will never use a Switch form factor and think let me pop into the desktop to install command line utilities. And finally, Valve is conservative with many things, and fickle in many others. They have completely reversed their policy with regards to what adult game is or isn’t allowed on their store twice. Allowing AI-made content on their store is a question of policy.
  - talldayo 2y ago
    There are AI-based games on their store. Not many, but they exist: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1889620/AI_Roguelite/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/1889620/AI_Roguelite/ If you can manage to monetize a game that relies on OpenAI, I don't see why it couldn't be made available on Steam. I also don't see why going "all-in" on those experiences would ruin the experience for everyone else; that's the industry's decision to make, Valve doesn't really make games anymore.
dangus 2y ago
The Switch doesn’t have a Linux desktop mode installed and consumer-accessible by a prominent menu option by default. The Steam Deck does.

talldayo 2y ago

So, evidently you have not used a Steam Deck or appear to be in abject denial of what it is. > the Steam Deck is so different and specifically made for gaming that it’s really hard to count it amongst the Linux fold. That's funny, it has a KDE desktop and a graphical installer for Linux packages. It looks no different from my Linux desktop at home. > We don’t count the Switch owners as computer users of BSD after all. You very well could: https://switchroot.org/ https://switchroot.org/ The default Switch OS is more importantly based on Android though. > a portable console connected to the largest gaming store in the world is not a winning move. You're damn right. That's why Valve specifically designed the Steam Deck so it's not connected to them for essential services. You can install Windows on it, put another Linux distro over the base install, or dual boot with whatever ungodly combination you prefer. I don't know who led you onto this, but using Valve-provided software is entirely optional for Steam Deck owners. > With how fickle Valve is, they’ll go all in on AI any day now. Evidently you don't use Steam very much, either. Steam, the app, hasn't received a serious "new feature" since they spruced up the in-game chat app during the pandemic. I am about as worried of Valve going all-in on AI as I am worried of Joe Biden adopting serious socialist reform into his policy. It's not going to happen, Jack.

philistine 2y ago
The presence of these affordances (allowing easy access to a Linux desktop, the ability to install Windows) is there to placate people like you. The vast majority of Steam Deck users will never use a Switch form factor and think let me pop into the desktop to install command line utilities. And finally, Valve is conservative with many things, and fickle in many others. They have completely reversed their policy with regards to what adult game is or isn’t allowed on their store twice. Allowing AI-made content on their store is a question of policy.
- talldayo 2y ago
  There are AI-based games on their store. Not many, but they exist: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1889620/AI_Roguelite/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/1889620/AI_Roguelite/ If you can manage to monetize a game that relies on OpenAI, I don't see why it couldn't be made available on Steam. I also don't see why going "all-in" on those experiences would ruin the experience for everyone else; that's the industry's decision to make, Valve doesn't really make games anymore.

dangus 2y ago

The Switch doesn’t have a Linux desktop mode installed and consumer-accessible by a prominent menu option by default. The Steam Deck does.