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Facebook figured this out too a long time ago when building news tab. But unfortunately they also saw that these people were 90% aligned with the same politica

by gmerc 2y ago

Facebook figured this out too a long time ago when building news tab. But unfortunately they also saw that these people were 90% aligned with the same political party and Joel Kaplan helped Zuck understand that actioning it would mean declaring war on the party. So Zuck tucked his tail. Proving once again that most of our problems today are not tech problems and don’t have tech solutions but are societal in nature. We know what to do on climate change, we just don’t like the tradeoff. Or more precisely our governmental systems can not overcome the resistance because we forgot to incentivize long term survival. https://www.politico.com/news/2021/10/25/facebook-fatal-flaw-technologists-lobbyists-516927 https://www.politico.com/news/2021/10/25/facebook-fatal-flaw... We know what to do about misinformation. We know what to do about micro plastics pollution We know what to do about antibiotic resistance We know what to do about gun violence. So we hold out for magical technology fixes. The special trick in the US is that everything can be made a partisan problem, which instantly means paralyzing government intervention.

plasticchris 2y ago
This level of certainty is a bit frightening. We know what to do? These are complex issues with many trade offs and unintended consequences.
- gmerc 2y ago
  My point - We don’t like the tradeoffs or consequences. Usually relating to our entirely man made economic system. What? Arrest Co2 increase in the atmosphere
  - plasticchris 2y ago
    So many points. Does your thinking start with “it is obvious that…” or “the right side of history” ? We as humans are just very susceptible to a combination of fallacy and social reinforcement, no matter our political stance.
    - gmerc 2y ago
      There’s nothing complex about human induced Co2 in the atmosphere. We know what we have to do.
      - Ray20 2y ago
        No, we are not. It is just Western-centrism, and you for some reason forget, that there is 5 billion more people on the Planet, for whom the consequences of the fight against CO2 emission is more dangerous then the global warming. The same goes for microplastics pollution and the other things you listed.
        gmerc 2y ago
        As someone living in Southeast Asia 2m NN and at close to 40deg every day now - a hearty Fuck You. The same from my friends in Dheli who have 45C/12xF head. The same for Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia dealing with coastal erosion and drowning in western shit plastics. Spare the fake bullshit about being concerned about the rest of the world. We have a word for people like you. Fascists. Apparently we moved from denial to denial of human effect to the “it’s good for you” phase of colonialism again.

by gmerc 2y ago

plasticchris 2y ago

This level of certainty is a bit frightening. We know what to do? These are complex issues with many trade offs and unintended consequences.

gmerc 2y ago
My point - We don’t like the tradeoffs or consequences. Usually relating to our entirely man made economic system. What? Arrest Co2 increase in the atmosphere
- plasticchris 2y ago
  So many points. Does your thinking start with “it is obvious that…” or “the right side of history” ? We as humans are just very susceptible to a combination of fallacy and social reinforcement, no matter our political stance.
  - gmerc 2y ago
    There’s nothing complex about human induced Co2 in the atmosphere. We know what we have to do.
    - Ray20 2y ago
      No, we are not. It is just Western-centrism, and you for some reason forget, that there is 5 billion more people on the Planet, for whom the consequences of the fight against CO2 emission is more dangerous then the global warming. The same goes for microplastics pollution and the other things you listed.
      - gmerc 2y ago
        As someone living in Southeast Asia 2m NN and at close to 40deg every day now - a hearty Fuck You. The same from my friends in Dheli who have 45C/12xF head. The same for Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia dealing with coastal erosion and drowning in western shit plastics. Spare the fake bullshit about being concerned about the rest of the world. We have a word for people like you. Fascists. Apparently we moved from denial to denial of human effect to the “it’s good for you” phase of colonialism again.