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Tracking and ads integrated by default into the OS, who cares. But they did something with open source, they must have become nice! And the linux subsystem, we

by lukan 2y ago

Tracking and ads integrated by default into the OS, who cares. But they did something with open source, they must have become nice! And the linux subsystem, well, for me a textbook example of: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extingu... So sorry, they were never cool to me. I still use them, but if I must switch to win 11 soon, I might take that as an opportunity to finally cut loose my last dependencies with windows.

throwup238 2y ago
More than 60% of Azure is run on Linux [1] and the writing was already on the wall when the Linux subsystem was conceived so I don't think it's a good example of EEE. [1] https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/products/virtual-machines/linux https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/products/virtual-machines/...
- nix0n 2y ago
  > I don't think it's a good example of EEE Not yet, they're still on the "embrace" step.
  - temac 2y ago
    With WSL they are absolutely at the "extend" step.
    - ahartmetz 2y ago
      Notably, there are some passthrough APIs to extend the captive Linux with Windows features.
      - nix0n 2y ago
        Ah, I didn't know about that. I stand corrected, WSL is at the "extend" stage.
      - ahartmetz 2y ago
        It's somewhat hard to find, so lest anyone thinks I'm making it up, here are two things I have heard of - DirectX passthrough and (probably related) DirectML passthrough https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/directx-heart-linux/ https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/directx-heart-linux/ https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/ai/directml/pytorch-wsl#set-up-torch-directml https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/ai/directml/pytorc...
strictnein 2y ago
> Tracking and ads integrated by default into the OS, who cares. But they did something with open source, they must have become nice! > Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

by lukan 2y ago

throwup238 2y ago

More than 60% of Azure is run on Linux [1] and the writing was already on the wall when the Linux subsystem was conceived so I don't think it's a good example of EEE. [1] https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/products/virtual-machines/linux https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/products/virtual-machines/...

nix0n 2y ago
> I don't think it's a good example of EEE Not yet, they're still on the "embrace" step.
- temac 2y ago
  With WSL they are absolutely at the "extend" step.
  - ahartmetz 2y ago
    Notably, there are some passthrough APIs to extend the captive Linux with Windows features.
    - nix0n 2y ago
      Ah, I didn't know about that. I stand corrected, WSL is at the "extend" stage.
    - ahartmetz 2y ago
      It's somewhat hard to find, so lest anyone thinks I'm making it up, here are two things I have heard of - DirectX passthrough and (probably related) DirectML passthrough https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/directx-heart-linux/ https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/directx-heart-linux/ https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/ai/directml/pytorch-wsl#set-up-torch-directml https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/ai/directml/pytorc...

strictnein 2y ago

> Tracking and ads integrated by default into the OS, who cares. But they did something with open source, they must have become nice! > Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html