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> However. This is the holy grail of computer usage i’ve seen this often and i’m trying to understand the issue. i have never wanted to go back in history or h

by kmlx 2y ago

> However. This is the holy grail of computer usage i’ve seen this often and i’m trying to understand the issue. i have never wanted to go back in history or have a comprehensive history of all my actions. the only exception is the terminal and for that ctrl+r/history is more than enough. i learn, apply and move on. what’s the use case for this recall thing?

danpalmer 2y ago
I often have 100 tabs open so that I can find things I was looking at again. I regularly browse my browser history to try to find things I saw previously. I often remember seeing something in a chat session somewhere, but can't remember which person/channel/room it was... Being able to search everything I've seen on my screen would address all of these. I think it would fundamentally change how we interface with computers, if we could do it reliably. Silos between applications can start to break down when you have sufficient intelligence about what's on the screen too, and that's a huge opportunity.
- kmlx 2y ago
  interesting. thanks for the reply. i also used to have lots of tabs open till i realised i need to organise better. since then i keep a few tabs open at max and regularly close all my tabs. i also tend to open a tab, read what i need to and then close it. no more clutter this way.
mmebane 2y ago
As someone with ADHD, being able to have an assistant with perfect memory that I can ask extremely vague questions to about things I'm pretty sure I did some time between last week and 5 years ago sounds amazing. I'm skeptical Recall will actually be able to do that. I doubt its usefulness outweighs the legal and social concerns. But I can absolutely see the use.
- ChickeNES 2y ago
  This is honestly exactly why I'm (cautiously) optimistic about Recall.
- dgellow 2y ago
  Yes that’s exactly my situation and why I was looking forward to trying out for myself
- reciprocity 2y ago
  Microsoft isn't the company to bring what you're picturing here into reality. Honestly what you really want is a journaling software like Obsidian.
avarun 2y ago
You don't see how having perfect / idempotent memory of every single thing you've seen on your computer would be useful? Half my day on my computer revolves around trying to dig up info I've seen previously that I didn't save/categorize properly. Not even having to bother with the categorization bit in the first place would be an amazing productivity improvement.
mrangle 2y ago
>what’s the use case for this recall thing? Surveillance, very obviously. It'd be reasonable to see this as a waymark on a roadmap. Which is why it makes little sense to users. Why it is counterintuitive in that it will drive people away instead of draw them to the product. And why it is being rammed out into the market regardless. What's the waymark after this?

by kmlx 2y ago

danpalmer 2y ago

I often have 100 tabs open so that I can find things I was looking at again. I regularly browse my browser history to try to find things I saw previously. I often remember seeing something in a chat session somewhere, but can't remember which person/channel/room it was... Being able to search everything I've seen on my screen would address all of these. I think it would fundamentally change how we interface with computers, if we could do it reliably. Silos between applications can start to break down when you have sufficient intelligence about what's on the screen too, and that's a huge opportunity.

kmlx 2y ago
interesting. thanks for the reply. i also used to have lots of tabs open till i realised i need to organise better. since then i keep a few tabs open at max and regularly close all my tabs. i also tend to open a tab, read what i need to and then close it. no more clutter this way.

mmebane 2y ago

As someone with ADHD, being able to have an assistant with perfect memory that I can ask extremely vague questions to about things I'm pretty sure I did some time between last week and 5 years ago sounds amazing. I'm skeptical Recall will actually be able to do that. I doubt its usefulness outweighs the legal and social concerns. But I can absolutely see the use.

ChickeNES 2y ago
This is honestly exactly why I'm (cautiously) optimistic about Recall.
dgellow 2y ago
Yes that’s exactly my situation and why I was looking forward to trying out for myself
reciprocity 2y ago
Microsoft isn't the company to bring what you're picturing here into reality. Honestly what you really want is a journaling software like Obsidian.

avarun 2y ago

You don't see how having perfect / idempotent memory of every single thing you've seen on your computer would be useful? Half my day on my computer revolves around trying to dig up info I've seen previously that I didn't save/categorize properly. Not even having to bother with the categorization bit in the first place would be an amazing productivity improvement.

mrangle 2y ago

>what’s the use case for this recall thing? Surveillance, very obviously. It'd be reasonable to see this as a waymark on a roadmap. Which is why it makes little sense to users. Why it is counterintuitive in that it will drive people away instead of draw them to the product. And why it is being rammed out into the market regardless. What's the waymark after this?