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Windows 9x/XP did not come with C#, Visual C++ or Visual Basic. Likewise, classic macOS did not come with any programming or scripting languages. In this respec

Windows 9x/XP did not come with C#, Visual C++ or Visual Basic. Likewise, classic macOS did not come with any programming or scripting languages. In this respect, they were equally “shitty”, and your solution would have been unavailable for both.

jwnin 2y ago
windows xp sp1 and later bundled .net framework, which included compilers for c# and vb.net. ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.NET_Framework_version_history#Overview https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.NET_Framework_version_history...
Rinzler89 2y ago
AFAIK MacOS was just another UNIX, and in UXIX writing to a serial port was just writing to a file. Are you telling me MacOS had no shell scripting capabilities to write to a file via the command line? Even MS-DOS could do that.
- lmz 2y ago
  Mac OS X is a UNIX (of sorts). Mac OS classic (as in the article) is most definitely not.
  - Rinzler89 2y ago
    So that version of MAcOS had no possibility of some command line shell scripting?
    - Sesse__ 2y ago
      There was no command line at all.
    - bas 2y ago
      Brings back memories, but you'd have to install a programming environment, e.g.: - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_Programmer%27s_Workshop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_Programmer%27s_Works... - http://www.think-pascal.org/#SetUp http://www.think-pascal.org/#SetUp - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/THINK_C https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/THINK_C
xanathar 2y ago
Everything from DOS 5.x onwards (including Windows 9x and NT) came with QBasic, previous versions of DOS had GW-BASIC. Not the greatest tools out of the box, but still better than nothing.
- xorcist 2y ago
  MS/PC-DOS shipped with debug.com since pretty much the first versions. It is a perfectly usable assembler where you can type a short loop that receives characters from the serial port and outputs them to a file. Similar things have been done many times to salvage hosed systems where a little more than copy file COM1: was required. With the Internet today, you probably don't even need to remember the instruction names, you can probably find a printout of a program that does this.
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jwnin 2y ago

windows xp sp1 and later bundled .net framework, which included compilers for c# and vb.net. ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.NET_Framework_version_history#Overview https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.NET_Framework_version_history...

Rinzler89 2y ago

AFAIK MacOS was just another UNIX, and in UXIX writing to a serial port was just writing to a file. Are you telling me MacOS had no shell scripting capabilities to write to a file via the command line? Even MS-DOS could do that.

lmz 2y ago
Mac OS X is a UNIX (of sorts). Mac OS classic (as in the article) is most definitely not.
- Rinzler89 2y ago
  So that version of MAcOS had no possibility of some command line shell scripting?
  - Sesse__ 2y ago
    There was no command line at all.
  - bas 2y ago
    Brings back memories, but you'd have to install a programming environment, e.g.: - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_Programmer%27s_Workshop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_Programmer%27s_Works... - http://www.think-pascal.org/#SetUp http://www.think-pascal.org/#SetUp - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/THINK_C https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/THINK_C

xanathar 2y ago

Everything from DOS 5.x onwards (including Windows 9x and NT) came with QBasic, previous versions of DOS had GW-BASIC. Not the greatest tools out of the box, but still better than nothing.

xorcist 2y ago
MS/PC-DOS shipped with debug.com since pretty much the first versions. It is a perfectly usable assembler where you can type a short loop that receives characters from the serial port and outputs them to a file. Similar things have been done many times to salvage hosed systems where a little more than copy file COM1: was required. With the Internet today, you probably don't even need to remember the instruction names, you can probably find a printout of a program that does this.

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